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Thread: Freedom of speech

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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    The people of the United States do have the right to live free of repercussions from the government as a result of their free speech.
    Try spreading government secrets and see how free you are from repercussions from the government. Try threatening the life of the President and see how free you are from repercussions from the government. Doesn't work that way.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Try spreading government secrets and see how free you are from repercussions from the government. Try threatening the life of the President and see how free you are from repercussions from the government. Doesn't work that way.
    Your examples aren't free speech, they're crimes.

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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Noooo... we were talking about a statement that you called convoluted and haven't backed up.

    You are talking to somebody else about repercussions...
    Show the post: I remember saying that there was a convoluted statement made, but I don't where it is actually.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Your examples aren't free speech, they're crimes.
    They are limits to free speech regardless. A "crime" is simply the government declaring that you can't do something or you'll be punished.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They are limits to free speech regardless. A "crime" is simply the government declaring that you can't do something or you'll be punished.
    No rights are absolute.

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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No rights are absolute.
    I know that and you know that, tell that to some of the wacky libertarians who thinks rights are.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Free speech is free speech; people are also free not to agree, free to withhold their money from someone for same, etc.


    You can say pretty much anything you wish, but that doesn't mean you're exempt from a backlash from other free people doing what they are free to do.

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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I know that and you know that, tell that to some of the wacky libertarians who thinks rights are.
    I wonder if they know that the first amendment applies only to congress with a few exceptions?

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    Re: Freedom of speech

    I support the freedom of speech as long as it doesnt harm the other's rights of freedom of speech.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Oh and thanks.... I love to vote Rootebega. Pity it isn't a choice in Prez elections....

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