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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Nope, that's pure BS. Boycotts have jack to do with the 1st Amendment.

    Also, I do not consider political donations to be speech, and view the disclosure of campaign donations and finances to simply be a matter of transparency.
    Exactly my position 100%
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Except repercussions from the government.
    What repercussions from the government?
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Starting with the Rush Limbaugh thing and also continuing with some of the comments I see about the idea of disclosure of political donations. There seems to be an idea that speech is not free if people react negatively to what someone says.

    For example, there was a claim made by some that Rush Limbaugh was losing his free speech rights because people boycotted his advertisers and there seems to be similar fears about disclosure of PAC or campaign contributions.

    So my question is this, is the first amendment harmed if the citizenry refuses to associate with or purchase from someone because they dislike their speech? Similarly, is this impugned if people threaten to do the same if someone decides to make such a statement in the future? (example, don't talk bad about puppies or I will never buy from your store again and I will write a letter to your job's complaint department.)
    absolutely not. that is why, for example, universities should have the right to disassociate themselves from lunatic professors who go off spouting on little eichmans' and the like.

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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    absolutely not. that is why, for example, universities should have the right to disassociate themselves from lunatic professors who go off spouting on little eichmans' and the like.
    Your answer is convoluted.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Your answer is convoluted.
    not at all. freedom of speech includes freedom of association, which presumes as well freedom of disassociation.

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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    not at all. freedom of speech includes freedom of association, which presumes as well freedom of disassociation.
    What professors do you have in mind? Your reply was out of context and therefore convoluted.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    What professors do you have in mind? Your reply was out of context and therefore convoluted.
    It isn't convoluted in the slightest...
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It isn't convoluted in the slightest...
    Show that.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Show that.
    Show that it wasn't convoluted? Are you serious?

    Why don't you... the one that thinks it is convoluted, explain why instead. Thanks.
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    Re: Freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Show that it wasn't convoluted? Are you serious?

    Why don't you... the one that thinks it is convoluted, explain why instead. Thanks.
    I am serious; show that his answer wasn't convoluted: ga'head
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