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Do you believe in God?[W:359]

Do you believe in God?

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FreedomFromAll said:
Not sad just reality. Having almost died, I can tell you that I did not find any god or your jesus. What I did find was that I have really good friends and family, which in my book counts for a lot more than legends. And I also learned that time is of the essence. The way I look at it is that theists tend to be believing that life will continue forever while they waste the little time that they have alive. Is there a god? Is there an afterlife? What if you knew there wasnt? How would that affect how you live right now?
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Since you did not die its hard for one to believe you were on your deathbed.....as far as I am concerned its a matter of faith when it comes to religion and believing. You either believe or you don't....I truly believe in God and a after life...There is no question in my mind.........I guess the difference between you and I is if someway I am wrong then no harm no foul........If your wrong then its a whole another matter...........You will burn in hell my friend.............
 
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Navy Pride said:
Since you did not die its hard for one to believe you were on your deathbed.....as far as I am concerned its a matter of faith when it comes to religion and believing. You either believe or you don't....I truly believe in God and a after life...There is no question in my mind.........I guess the difference between you and I is if someway I am wrong then no harm no foul........If your wrong then its a whole another matter...........You will burn in hell my friend.............
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And if Allah is actually the true God, both of us were burn in hell!

The 'I have nothing to lose, you have everything' argument only applies in a binary position.
 
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Jredbaron96 said:
And if Allah is actually the true God, both of us were burn in hell!

The 'I have nothing to lose, you have everything' argument only applies in a binary position.
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Like I said its a matter of faith and I know there is a Christian God and I know hat his Son said............
 
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Navy Pride said:
I wish there were some stats on how many atheists accept our lord and savior Jesus Christ on their death bed.....Sadly I am at a time of my life where long time friends are dying and several who had given up on religion did exactly that. If this life on earth was all there is how sad would it be.......
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Almost none.
 
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If god manifested him/herself/themselves, the atheists would accept that they were wrong and that there is a god after all. The subscribers to particular religions would not be surprised, either. They would simply say it was all a hoax and they were right all along. They''d still be waiting until the 12th. Imam or Jesus, or whoever came back to save then and cast the rest of humanity out.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Like I said its a matter of faith and I know there is a Christian God and I know hat his Son said............
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He said some stuff while under the influence of some really good drugs:

For everyone will be salted with fire. Salt is good; but if salt has lost its saltiness, how can you season it? Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace with one another.
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Navy Pride said:
Since you did not die its hard for one to believe you were on your deathbed.....as far as I am concerned its a matter of faith when it comes to religion and believing. You either believe or you don't....I truly believe in God and a after life...There is no question in my mind.........I guess the difference between you and I is if someway I am wrong then no harm no foul........If your wrong then its a whole another matter...........You will burn in hell my friend.............
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Why would I burn in hell? Because I don believe you? Seriously I have doubts that a god that requires people to believe that it exists if not they they will suffer for eternity (or at least until that part where they die) Is a good god. Sounds a bit vain to me.
 
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Redress said:
Almost none.
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Redress after sparring with you for a few years I believe on your deathbed you would be one of the first to convert.......:)
 
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Navy Pride said:
Redress after sparring with you for a few years I believe on your deathbed you would be one of the first to convert.......:)
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Why? If there is a god and all you got to do to make him happy is when you are dying say "oops, sorry for all the ****ty things I did, but I beleive in you now", I want nothing to do with him and I sure as hell don't want to go to his heaven.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
If god manifested him/herself/themselves, the atheists would accept that they were wrong and that there is a god after all. The subscribers to particular religions would not be surprised, either. They would simply say it was all a hoax and they were right all along. They''d still be waiting until the 12th. Imam or Jesus, or whoever came back to save then and cast the rest of humanity out.
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A lot of us believe that time is not to far away.
 
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Redress said:
He said some stuff while under the influence of some really good drugs:
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Wow Redress, to say something like that.....I am glad I am not standing close to you.....
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
Why would I burn in hell? Because I don believe you? Seriously I have doubts that a god that requires people to believe that it exists if not they they will suffer for eternity (or at least until that part where they die) Is a good god. Sounds a bit vain to me.
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Whatever, its a free country, believe what you like but like I said if I am wrong no harm no foul..........If you are wrong, stand by for heavy rolls to port...........Redress although a EX sailor will not understand that because bird farms roll nothing like a combatant.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Wow Redress, to say something like that.....I am glad I am not standing close to you.....
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Just for you,. I am holding up a metal rod.












Nope, no lightning.
 
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Redress said:
Why? If there is a god and all you got to do to make him happy is when you are dying say "oops, sorry for all the ****ty things I did, but I beleive in you now", I want nothing to do with him and I sure as hell don't want to go to his heaven.
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You can say anything now......your young, death to you looks far away............Remember what someone said though and I parphrase "Death comes like a thief in the night."
 
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Navy Pride said:
You can say anything now......your young, death to you looks far away............Remember what someone said though and I parphrase "Death comes like a thief in the night."
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Oddly, my sense of ethics is pretty consistant. I don't justify stealing because I need the money. Why would I justify pledging myself to an asshole just because I was dying?
 
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Navy Pride said:
You can say anything now......your young, death to you looks far away............Remember what someone said though and I parphrase "Death comes like a thief in the night."
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I'm not young and I'm not afraid of death. If I died tomorrow, I have no worries not believing in a god. I'll go to my grave rationally.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Whatever, its a free country, believe what you like but like I said if I am wrong no harm no foul..........If you are wrong, stand by for heavy rolls to port...........Redress although a EX sailor will not understand that because bird farms roll nothing like a combatant.
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You could be wrong in a different way though NP. What if there is a God but it isn't the God described in the Bible? What if this God wanted you to be openminded and allow people to live and let live? What if the only sin was not "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you"? What if one of the major rules that a person could break is to try to know what God wants, as in following a major religion without being open-minded that others can believe how they want to?

And breaking these rules is what causes punishment?

Or maybe we all move on to new lives (reincarnation) in order for our soul to grow. What if people who are not willing to live and let live take longer to grow and many more lifetimes? What if they are stuck in some sort of limbo until who knows when?
 
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Navy Pride said:
Wow Redress, to say something like that.....I am glad I am not standing close to you.....
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Since when has god ever struck anyone down for denouncing him? Men have done the vilest of things and walked away perfectly fine.


Navy Pride said:
Whatever, its a free country, believe what you like but like I said if I am wrong no harm no foul..........If you are wrong, stand by for heavy rolls to port...........Redress although a EX sailor will not understand that because bird farms roll nothing like a combatant.
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I like how christians often use pascal's wager as their final hail-mary against unbelievers. "Believe it because you have nothing to lose" does not in any way testify to the truth of the matter.
 
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Navy Pride said:
If this life on earth was all there is how sad would it be.......
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I'd rather have there be absolutely nothing after this life than have a single person suffer in eternal hellfire.

If this life is all there is, then life wouldn't be meaningless, it would be the only thing that has meaning at all.
 
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Yes i do believe there is a God
 
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Navy Pride said:
Whatever, its a free country, believe what you like but like I said if I am wrong no harm no foul..........If you are wrong, stand by for heavy rolls to port...........Redress although a EX sailor will not understand that because bird farms roll nothing like a combatant.
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Yes believe what you like. Oh wait are you really believing what you want to believe? What the new testament teaches is that either you believe that Jesus was a god or you will suffer hell for eternity. That my friend is called blackmail. And was one of the first clues to me as a child that the bible was not a good thing to believe in. So no I am not worried that old Hebrew legends mean anything real.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
And was one of the first clues to me as a child that the bible was not a good thing to believe in.
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That's the conscious decision people make on whether or not to team up with a group of people that discriminate and condemn everyone else to eternal hell, which is what the religious do (in most religions, anyway), or whether or not to base their social interactions on the premise that people have the same intrinsic worth and should not be discriminated against.

That's called secular morality and it is what finally un-lodged Western civilization from the sewage trap of Christianity that society was deeply immersed in for 1,500 years, until some decent Renaissance philosophers realized that ancient Greek thought had already defined what morality is, that it is a personal choice and independent of anything divine, spiritual or fantastic.
 
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