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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Why can't intelligence result from non intelligence?
    That it did is one of two equally unlikely scenarios, one of which must be true:

    Intelligence resulted from non intelligence, or god created intelligence.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
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    It evolved that way... humans developed that way at random through adaptation.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Why can't intelligence result from non intelligence?
    1. there is nothing material about it.
    2. entropy

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    It is not necessary for the intelligent person to believe in any deity in order to do the right thing, just as it is not necessary to retain any conception of right or wrong in order to comprehend with absolute clarity the existence of G-d. The "fire and brimstone' stuff is just a device contrived for the not so intelligent, but nevertheless quite numerous, dunderheads among us who lack the necessary prefrontal connections to guide their behavior by means of rational perception and conscientious empathy. Primal fear of the unknown must be evoked in order to persuade the dunderheads to behave in a civil manner. This has less to do with the actual existence of G-d as it does with the need to maintain social order.
    I'd be happier to give people primal fear of the absolutely known. Society makes the rules, not some imaginary friend in the sky. Society enforces the rules, not an invisible deity. Punishment is immediate, not something that happens after death. I get really tired of the concept that some people are just so stupidthat they can't deal with reality, they have to be threatened by magical nonsense.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Most people do, what about you?
    Absolutely

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    1. there is nothing material about it.
    2. entropy
    1. Intelligence is an emergent property of the brain, which is most definitely material
    2. Entropy applies to a closed system, which our planet is not. The sun ensures a constant influx of energy.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Most people do, what about you?
    I believe in life eternal and I believe it is a giant circle. i will die the earth worms, maggots, vultures, will eat me and poop me out. That poop will fertilize the grass. That grass will feed the cows. Those cows will feed your children......and on and on.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
    The egg because that's where the changes take place.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That it did is one of two equally unlikely scenarios, one of which must be true:

    Intelligence resulted from non intelligence, or god created intelligence.
    Great, the either/or fallacy rears its ugly head.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    I did not answer the poll because I do not consider it appropriate to discuss (and in that way expose) one's spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) with effectively anonymous strangers. I respect the rights of the OP to hold certain beliefs, and I would not even consider holding them up to ridicule. But I must confess to having reservations about the manner in which his question was put - the clear implication being that, if most Americans share his beliefs (as he supposes), those beliefs are thus validated.

    My attitudes to religious believers is exemplified by an experience last weekend. I was doing some swotting up at my aunt's place in the mountains on Saturday, when the door bell went. I was the only one there so I opened the door to an elderly man and woman dressed in dark clothing. Ignoring the insult implicit in the woman's question "Are your parents at home?" (I am 18, not 8); I politely asked if I might help them.

    I was then subjected to a lengthy diatribe about how the world had gone awry, and asked if I would like the answer to the earth's troubles, together with a copy of 'The Watchtower'. As gently as I could, I told the lady that I greatly respected her for what she was doing, and that, while I respected her beliefs - I did not share them. She was very nice about it, but persisted along the lines of "You are too young to understand how easily Satan deceives people like you ..." and how the two of them could enlighten me. It took me ages to convince them that I really had to get on with my studies, and that I was really not interested. I was never impolite and we parted pleasantly, but it fortified my view that people are welcome to praise whatever Gods they believe in, but it is preferable they be quiet about it.

    I support Arsenal, but I do not press that support upon anyone else. So to the OP, I am inclined to ask - with respect; "Why are my spiritual beliefs of any consequence to you?"
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