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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And how exactly will you carry out this demonstration with millions of people?
    Whether or not you actually do a thing is irrelevant. It is possible to do that thing.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Whether or not you actually do a thing is irrelevant. It is possible to do that thing.
    Seems to me we're back where we started. It's more effective to scare them with Hell fire and brimstone.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Seems to me we're back where we started. It's more effective to scare them with Hell fire and brimstone.
    Seems this thread has gone offtrack. Are you implying god should be believed in because, regardless of whether god exists or not, ppl will behave better if they fear eternal damnation?
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Seems this thread has gone offtrack. Are you implying god should be believed in because, regardless of whether god exists or not, ppl will behave better if they fear eternal damnation?
    This started at post #229/205 in case you haven't been following:
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    Honestly, anyone who is only acting good because they're afraid of some imaginary father figure in the sky punishing them after they die is pretty unstable to begin with. Those people, we need to find and get out of the gene pool as fast as we can.
    As opposed to anyone who is only acting good because they're afraid of an authority figure with a gun punishing them now?

    Not that I have any particular urge to defend organized religions but that argument really doesn't hold water.
    So, do I believe people will behave better if they fear eternal damnation? Only to roughly the same extent that people will behave better if they fear The Man and what He will do to them.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    This started at post #229/205 in case you haven't been following:
    No I was following and please wasn`t trying to direct criticism at you. It just seems this went from do you believe, to does god exist, to debating whether ppl act better because of belief in god, to what is best way to get ppl to behave. Seems getting farther and farther from original topic. I find a lot of ppl post emotionally and not rationally, In this I mean they try and insult the other person instead of influence them and bring them to their point of view. Sad really and no one gets anywhere like that, excuse the reference but that`s only good when you are preaching to the choir, When trying to convince people who don`t share your view a more moderate tone works best.

    But then this is an emotional topic for many ppl and well I suppose we wouldn`t be human if we didn`t have emotions. So now that i`ve babbled on a bit just ignore me and carry on.
    Again not directed at you specifically just wanna see if ppl can bring it back on topic a bit more.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Seems to me we're back where we started. It's more effective to scare them with Hell fire and brimstone.
    Why should we have to scare them at all? Why shouldn't most people do the right thing, just because it's the right thing to do?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    I believe in the existence of G-d in the same vein as I believe in my own existence. Obviously, the universe is both awesomely alive and awesomely intelligent, at least to the degree that it can be assessed by those sentient beings known to us and of which we include ourselves. I call the totality of this universal vitality and intelligence, which I cannot help but feel pulsating through mine own veins, "G-d," and I prostrate myself before it because I am utterly overwhelmed by its awesome and undeniable presence.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why should we have to scare them at all? Why shouldn't most people do the right thing, just because it's the right thing to do?
    I agree, they should!

    But that doesn't mean they will. Take away the police and the jails and see how long it takes us to revert to anarchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why should we have to scare them at all? Why shouldn't most people do the right thing, just because it's the right thing to do?
    Because men are not angels and need the incentives to do what is right while a minority will mostly act on good faith regardless.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why should we have to scare them at all? Why shouldn't most people do the right thing, just because it's the right thing to do?
    Freud wrote about the Ego overtaking the Id. It usually happens during childhood when the child learns that certain activities will result in punishment from the parents. Of course, some children aren't actually raised, just left to grow. Those kids reach the crest much later through laws and imprisonment, but prison only straightens out the meek and mild, some thrive on the inmate population hierarchy. Those tend to find God when they age and lose their strength and agility.

    Jesus and God are pretty heavy hitters to have on your side, even towards the non-believers. Mostly because many atheists still wonder why it makes you stronger.

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