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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    At least the authority figure is demonstrably real. Granted, I don't have much respect for people who do either.
    The religions that teach/control using faith are just as demonstrably real. The origin of faith doesn't matter. In most groups The Man, or at least most people's conception of The Man, is just as unreal.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    God is love. Often times tough love, but love none the less.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    God is hate. He embodies the human desire for control and egoism.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    God is love. Often times tough love, but love none the less.
    I guess we'll chock up Numbers 31:15, where god ordered moses to murder the men, women and children of a conquered nation, then to take the virgins for themselves as tough love. I can feel the love from here.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The religions that teach/control using faith are just as demonstrably real. The origin of faith doesn't matter. In most groups The Man, or at least most people's conception of The Man, is just as unreal.
    They're not teaching that the religion is going to punish them, they're teaching that an imaginary father figure in the sky is going to punish them. There's a difference. We're back to real, demonstrable punishment and imaginary punishment.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They're not teaching that the religion is going to punish them, they're teaching that an imaginary father figure in the sky is going to punish them. There's a difference. We're back to real, demonstrable punishment and imaginary punishment.
    So you're saying threatening people with a horrible but imaginary afterlife is worse than threatening them with having to share a cell with Baba?
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    So you're saying threatening people with a horrible but imaginary afterlife is worse than threatening them with having to share a cell with Baba?
    One is real, one is not. One is demonstrable, one is delusional.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    One is real, one is not. One is demonstrable, one is delusional.
    Can you actually demonstrate sharing a cell with Baba?

    The point is that most people really have no understanding of the law, or what it's like in prison, or very little else when it comes to the real nuts and bolts of our justice system. The idealized image they maintain to represent that system is as fictional as any novel on a shelf. In some specific cases it's probably more fictional than the novel if it happens to be a fact inspired work compared to a particularly ignorant person.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Can you actually demonstrate sharing a cell with Baba?
    Absolutely. I can drag you into a prison and show you the cell. I could show you Bubba. Actually, I could leave you two alone and let Bubba prove himself to you. It can be demonstrated. The other side of the coin is entirely without a shred of evidence. Saying you'll go to hell is about as rational as saying you'll be skewered by a unicorn. It's an entirely empty concept.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    The masses carry an illusion of the justice system that is no more real to the experienced eyes of a lawyer than God is to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Absolutely. I can drag you into a prison and show you the cell. I could show you Bubba. Actually, I could leave you two alone and let Bubba prove himself to you. It can be demonstrated. The other side of the coin is entirely without a shred of evidence. Saying you'll go to hell is about as rational as saying you'll be skewered by a unicorn. It's an entirely empty concept.
    And how exactly will you carry out this demonstration with millions of people?


    (BTW - Thanks for the correction of Bubba's name. )
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