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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    There is a God and it is not me.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I agree. I consider it equally as presumptuous for an atheist to declare that there with certainty is no god as it is for a theist to proclaim with certainty the opposite.
    I believe that it is as certain that there is no god as it is that there is no flying spaghetti monster. I don't know for certain that there is no FSM, but I dismiss belief in it.

    Would you consider me arrogant, agnostic or both?
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Comment_Guy View Post
    There is a God and it is not me.
    Prove it. Produce your objective evidence that this is true.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I don't know for certain that there is no FSM, but I dismiss belief in it.
    He is real, and you will never be able to accept that until you allow yourself to be touched by His Noodly Appendage.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    He is real, and you will never be able to accept that until you allow yourself to be touched by His Noodly Appendage.
    Bad touch! Bad touch!
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    I hate to trot out the FSM every time someone trots out "atheism is arrogant, agnostic is the only humble position". But, since I am not 'hard' atheist, and am yet exceedingly dismissive of belief in gods, I am genuinely interested as to whether I fit the "humble agnostic" criteria.
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Hey I am retired and have a comfortable income.....Oh and sadly I don't have a life except to fire up you lefties........
    so, you admit to posting for the sole purpose of provoking & annoying people...and not for honest & intelligent debate.

    We appreciate your honesty.

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    That is true.....Conservatives have jobs...they don't have time to play around in DP like our left wing unemployed friends......
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    I mean, I could make up ten myths out of whole cloth right here on the spot. I could further announce that I made the all up.

    But I could be lying about making them all up. One might be true!!

    And will the "humble agnostic" call everyone who dismisses my myths "arrogant".
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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I hate to trot out the FSM every time someone trots out "atheism is arrogant, agnostic is the only humble position". But, since I am not 'hard' atheist, and am yet exceedingly dismissive of belief in gods, I am genuinely interested as to whether I fit the "humble agnostic" criteria.
    Agnosticism is not some fence sitting middle ground between theism and atheism, though.

    Theism and atheism speaks to the BELIEF in the existence of a god or gods.
    Gnosticism and agnosticism speak to the KNOWLEDGE of the existence of a god or gods.

    Do you have a belief in a god or gods? This is a yes or no question. The belief may be right or wrong, but you either have it or you don’t. You can’t not know if you have a belief in something. If your first instinct is to say you don’t know then you are an atheist.

    But do you claim to KNOW whether or not a god or gods exist? Most atheists and many theists will answer no to this question. They are agnostic. To be gnostic is to claim you KNOW. It doesn’t mean you are right of course. Many religious people claim to know God exists because they believe he revealed himself to them in some manner. So let’s recap:

    Agnostic atheist – one who doesn’t claim to know that a god or gods exist but has no belief in it/them
    Gnostic atheist – one who claims to know that a god or gods don’t exist and thus has no belief in it/them
    Agnostic theist – one who doesn’t claim to know that a god or gods exist but does have a belief in it/them
    Gnostic theist – one who claims to know that a god or gods exist and thus has a belief in it/them

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    I am an agnostic atheist. Though that usually confuses the average person which is why I usually just say I am an atheist. So if you want to call yourself an agnostic, fine, but just know that you are also either an atheist or a theist.

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    Re: Do you believe in God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Prove it. Produce your objective evidence that this is true.
    Prove there's not one.
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