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    Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    I believe it is creationism and religious doctrine should not be taught in our schools.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    It's a bunch of religious nonsense. It wouldn't know rigorous scientific principles if it tripped over them. Keep irrarional crap out of the schools.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    To answer the thread-titled question ..

    .. If the existence and function of God has been scientifically indicated/proven, then ID is scientifically based; if not, then it isn't.

    I haven't kept up with the latest advancements in conducting scientific inquiry, either with or without ID's recommended changes to scientific inquiry that, they say, will still qualify it as "science", so I really don't know whether science can indicate/prove the existence and function of God.

    I have a hunch that science hasn't done so yet, and that the existence and function of God is somewhere in speculation between the Higgs boson and the graviton or maybe even beyond the graviton, from science's perspective.

    But, I could be wrong.

    I mean, there may be those who claim that the existence and function of God has indeed been indicated/proven through the process application of "intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment", thus making ID a scientific theory .. though I shudder to think what God-baiting "experiments" were historically employed to so prove.

    So even though ID may have pockets of "real" science strewn throughout its constructs, unless its foundational premise -- the existence of God and God's function -- has been scientifically indicated/proven, it's simply not a scientific theory.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    No. It is an unsubstantiated hypothesis. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I believe it is creationism and religious doctrine should not be taught in our schools.

    I believe you are 100% correct.

    I don't want a secular school trying to "educate" my child on matters related to the Spirit. More importantly, a secular school is ill-equipped for such "teachings." This is the Church's responsibility and the domain of the parents at Home with their children.

    At the very same time, every child should have the right to pray in school, as long as their prayers don't conflict in time with class-room instruction, or other official school activities conducted by the school's administration. So, if a child wants to pray while swapping his math book for his physics book at his open locker between classes, that should be the child's decision. I the child gets to the classroom 5 minutes early, closes his eyes and silently engages in prayer, then that too should be the child's prerogative. If the child walks into the library on campus, picks a book from off the shelf, walks back to his study table and starts his study by closing his eyes and engaging in a silent prayer - then that's should be the business of that child.

    As long as that child does not interfere with the ability of other students on campus to receive their education, then yes (because this is where the OP's thread ultimately ends up), that child should be allowed to engage in prayer anywhere on campus. Bathroom, library, locker-room, gymnasium, football field, track, weight room, symphony hall, science labs, cafeteria, hallways, study hall, or the quad.

    This nation needs more prayer, not less. At the same time, no child's education should ever be curtailed because someone was praying.

    I can 100% guarantee you that there are many parents out there who now, would have loved to have someone on campus continually praying for Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Prayer change things and we simply don't know, that situation could have been prevented through prayer.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    as it is based on faith..and not science.

    it is of course not a scientific theory.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Keep irrarional crap out of the schools.

    Based on that, let me ask you a very simple question. I will be honest and warn up-front that if you are an irrational human being, your answer will reveal this fact about you. Now, here is the question:

    Does absolute truth exist?

    It is a very simply question, and the answer you give will reveal a lot about you. It also just might set you on a course that you had no idea you'd be on today! The beautiful thing about this question is that there is no cunning way around it. It is not a question that can be out witted. There's really no way to dance around the question, either.

    You might find that it is one of the most beautiful questions you could ever ask an atheist!
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I believe it is creationism and religious doctrine should not be taught in our schools.
    ID does not necessarily have to be either of those. It is not however science. You cannot put ID to any kind of test.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Based on that, let me ask you a very simple question. I will be honest and warn up-front that if you are an irrational human being, your answer will reveal this fact about you. Now, here is the question:

    Does absolute truth exist?

    It is a very simply question, and the answer you give will reveal a lot about you. It also just might set you on a course that you had no idea you'd be on today! The beautiful thing about this question is that there is no cunning way around it. It is not a question that can be out witted. There's really no way to dance around the question, either.

    You might find that it is one of the most beautiful questions you could ever ask an atheist!
    I love the question, although it seems you've pointed this against atheists as if they refute absolute truth (they do in a religious sense, of course.) Everyone and anyone could refute the question (which is a major and popular topic in philosophy), good discussion. Only you can define absolute truth.

    As for the OP, I do not believe Intelligent Design should be treated as a science, this isn't a disrespect for any supporters but it has no scientific value.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    No, there is no evidence to back it up.
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