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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Guess you missed the part where I said "according to this definition". The definition I posted said nothing about tested or replicated. ID does fit this definition, it is conceived by human imagination and it observes regularities, it also puts forth a structure to explain these regularities in a scientific manner. The bar for meeting the standards of scientific theory is really rather low.
    no, they are quite high...and ID miserably fails to meet these standards.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're right. Which is why it shouldn't be taught in schools.
    That's how I feel about poetry.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I comprehend it just do so differently than you do. Here is more things to consider on this, it's really an interesting subject.


    LAW

    1) An empirical generalization; a statement of a biological principle that appears to be without exception at the time it is made, and has become consolidated by repeated successful testing; rule (Lincoln et al., 1990)

    2) A theoretical principle deduced from particular facts, applicable to a defined group or class of phenomena, and expressible by a statement that a particular phenomenon always occurs if certain conditions be present (Oxford English Dictionary as quoted in Futuyma, 1979).

    3) A set of observed regularities expressed in a concise verbal or mathematical statement. (Krimsley, 1995).



    THEORY

    1) The grandest synthesis of a large and important body of information about some related group of natural phenomena (Moore, 1984)

    2) A body of knowledge and explanatory concepts that seek to increase our understanding ("explain") a major phenomenon of nature (Moore, 1984).

    3) A scientifically accepted general principle supported by a substantial body of evidence offered to provide an explanation of observed facts and as a basis for future discussion or investigation (Lincoln et al., 1990).

    4) 1. The abstract principles of a science as distinguished from basic or applied science. 2. A reasonable explanation or assumption advanced to explain a natural phenomenon but lacking confirming proof (Steen, 1971). [NB: I don't like this one but I include it to show you that even in "Science dictionaries" there is variation in definitions which leads to confusion].

    5) A scheme or system of ideas or statements held as an explanation or account of a group of facts or phenomena; a hypothesis that has been confirmed or established by observation or experiment, and is propounded or accepted as accounting for the known facts; a statement of what are held to be the general laws, principles or causes of something known or observed. (Oxford English Dictionary, 1961; [emphasis added]).

    6) An explanation for an observation or series of observations that is substantiated by a considerable body of evidence (Krimsley, 1995).

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    Yeah...and ID fails to meet the majority of those standards.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Neither can the big bang or solar system formation be "tested, observed, or replicated," I sure hope nobody tries to replicate it, GOOD GOD!
    The effects of what is theorized to be the big bang can be observed. Don't get me wrong, it's still a theory and far from being fact, but it's the best current paradigm for the observations astronomers are currently making about the universe.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    intelligent design is not scientific but a religious way of explaining the existence of universe but it also doesnt contradict scientific findings.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Neither can the big bang or solar system formation be "tested, observed, or replicated," I sure hope nobody tries to replicate it, GOOD GOD!
    wrong.

    the results and even residual energy from the Big Bang can indeed be observed.

    notice that static on your tv between channels? that's residual energy from the Big Bang.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Guess you missed the part where I said "according to this definition". The definition I posted said nothing about tested or replicated. ID does fit this definition, it is conceived by human imagination and it observes regularities, it also puts forth a structure to explain these regularities in a scientific manner. The bar for meeting the standards of scientific theory is really rather low.
    From the same site:

    In science a theory is a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation.
    Scientific theory | Learn everything there is to know about Scientific theory at Reference.com

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Big Bang.

    You just know someone's adapted the theory for porn at some point.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I believe it is creationism and religious doctrine should not be taught in our schools.
    Same here.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    That's how I feel about poetry.
    Pretty sure "poetry" is taught in classes tied to literature and the English language. Not ... you know.. classes which are on a entirely different frequency.
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