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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I believe it is creationism and religious doctrine should not be taught in our schools.
    I don't mind if it's taught or not. All I have to say is that it absolutely does not belong in a science classroom.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't mind if it's taught or not. All I have to say is that it absolutely does not belong in a science classroom.
    agreed. ID belongs in a philosophy or theology class.

    as its not science, it has no business in a science class.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post

    and that is poor science.
    Again, not accurate. It is not "poor science", it is simply not science whatsoever. If falls outside the realm of science.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    First of all, the word “theory” in the scientific vernacular does not mean the same as “theory” in the common vernacular. In short (very short), a scientific theory is a hypothesis that has been tested and verified. So by its very definition, no, Intelligent Design is not a scientific theory as it has been neither tested nor verified.

    So let’s move down the ladder. Can we call Intelligent Design a hypothesis? In order for a hypothesis (or a theory) to be considered scientific it must be falsifiable. Which means that IF the hypothesis were false, there would be a certain outcome to an experiment or an observation we would expect to see.

    For example, the Theory of Evolution could be falsified by a static fossil record, the existence of some mechanism that prevents mutations from occurring or being transmitted, or if the fossils of a modern species or recently extinct species popped up in ancient geological strata.

    So before Intelligent Design can be taken seriously as a scientific hypothesis, let alone a theory, it must be shown to be falsifiable. Can someone here posit an observation or outcome to an experiment that a proponent of Intelligent Design would accept as falsifying Intelligent Design?

    Please note, that just because something isn’t falsifiable or isn’t testable by the scientific method does not necessarily mean it isn’t true. It just means it falls outside the scientific arena, and most certainly should not be taught in a science classroom.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Based on that, let me ask you a very simple question. I will be honest and warn up-front that if you are an irrational human being, your answer will reveal this fact about you. Now, here is the question:

    Does absolute truth exist?

    It is a very simply question, and the answer you give will reveal a lot about you. It also just might set you on a course that you had no idea you'd be on today! The beautiful thing about this question is that there is no cunning way around it. It is not a question that can be out witted. There's really no way to dance around the question, either.

    You might find that it is one of the most beautiful questions you could ever ask an atheist!
    Define "truth". Certainly, there is absolute fact.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    ID may or may not be crap. There is no way to prove that one way or another.
    You're right. Which is why it shouldn't be taught in schools. It's a religious question at best.
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I believe it is creationism and religious doctrine should not be taught in our schools.
    It depends upon how you mean the question.

    Is there proof that certain processes in nature proceed with regularity and established patterns? Yes.

    Is this proof of what everyone would accept as there being a god? No.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Define "truth". Certainly, there is absolute fact.
    Even then, only so far as subscription is universal.

    It was once a 'fact' that the earth was flat.

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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Based on that, let me ask you a very simple question. I will be honest and warn up-front that if you are an irrational human being, your answer will reveal this fact about you. Now, here is the question:

    Does absolute truth exist?

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    You might find that it is one of the most beautiful questions you could ever ask an atheist!
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    Re: Is intelligent Design a scientific theory?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    "If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall."
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