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Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?


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How'd you manage to pull that off with such a piss poor investment adviser?




I don't take big gambles, actually one of my Son-in-laws is my financial advisor........I might fire him soon.......(just kidding he has made me a lot of money in th nineties)
 
Why is it Liberal blame GWB when the economy is bad but don't blame Hussein Obama when its worse?
 
Redress at least 50% of the Liberals in DP are ashamed to be identified as such. They call themselves private, other, Independent, moderate, etc when they are really Liberals........They try and hide it but their posts give them away. Sadly there are even a couple who claim to be Conservative who are closet Libs. That is why the polls are not closer in DP......

And now you are making **** up again NP. You think some of our most conservative posters are left wing because they might disagree with you on a single issue, and do so based on conservative, small government philosophy.

Now you stated that this poll result was different from poll results out in the real world. To judge that we need to see the poll results you are referring to, so please link them. If you don't, then based on your history we have to assume you just made that **** up too.
 
I am much MUCH better off today than I was three years ago. Praise be to the 4th moon of Endor.
 
Redress at least 50% of the Liberals in DP are ashamed to be identified as such. They call themselves private, other, Independent, moderate, etc when they are really Liberals........They try and hide it but their posts give them away. Sadly there are even a couple who claim to be Conservative who are closet Libs. That is why the polls are not closer in DP......

Just like the Republicans who won't identify themselves.
 
And now you are making **** up again NP. You think some of our most conservative posters are left wing because they might disagree with you on a single issue, and do so based on conservative, small government philosophy.

Now you stated that this poll result was different from poll results out in the real world. To judge that we need to see the poll results you are referring to, so please link them. If you don't, then based on your history we have to assume you just made that **** up too.


It goes both ways... though he can't see it. I am a conservative that has listed myself as Independent.
 
I don't suppose that SiL explained to NP that E-Vile Clinton was President when he made all that money?

Perhaps the SiL could explain to NP that NO President could clean-up the mess the financial markets had made of our economy. I would recommend NP read, 'The Crisis of Capitalist Democracy' by Richard A. Posner, but man it is tough sledding.

Bottomline, once the faith in the mortgage securities put up for the daily loans made by the bigger Hedge Funds and Shadow Banks was questioned, the entire system siezed up and as banks scrambled to beef up their other than mortgages equity, no new money was going into the credit system for small to medium businesses to operate.

No President could make much of a difference in the collapsing economy, massive amounts of untainted, ie not connected to the mortgage securities, money was the only hope, but many banks needed to cover their ass-ets too. Only time and a truthful assessment of the mortgages could open the credit flow enough to fund businesses.

But some seem to think the massive US economy can respond to instantly to.... I guess magic. A huge series of billions in now seen as grave miscalculations by a very unregulated system didn't happen in 3 years and damn sure isn't going to be fixed in 3 years.
 
When will you realise that wasn't the question you posed in your OP?

Its definitely related my left wing friends because your cronnies say Husseing Obama has no blame for anything that has gone wrong in his time as president so quit tap dancing and answer the question.
 
I don't take big gambles

It sounds like you did, if your stock portfolio has been flat for the past three years when the market as a whole was up 60%. There are basically two possibilities: 1) You invested in a lot of high-risk **** that didn't pay off. 2) You're one of the suckers who watches Mad Money and day-trades all day, losing all your profits to trading fees.
 
I don't take big gambles, actually one of my Son-in-laws is my financial advisor........I might fire him soon.......(just kidding he has made me a lot of money in th nineties)

The Clinton era was great wasn't it!
 
The Clinton era was great wasn't it!

Now wait a minute, you can't have it both ways......Does a president have anything to do with the rise and fall of the stock market or not..........You lefties really crack me up.
 
I'd say 50|50 there's some things now that are brighter for me, helping me secure that future i'm looking for consequently i wish i knew somethings that i didn't realize back then.
 
Now wait a minute, you can't have it both ways......Does a president have anything to do with the rise and fall of the stock market or not..........You lefties really crack me up.

So why are you insuating things like this in post 240

Don't shed any tears for me my left wing friend I am fine because I am retired and planned for my retirement.......I just feel sorry for those who didn't and all the broken promises Hussein Obama made.......

BTW I do think Al Gore had something to do with the boom of the 90's and how we are communicating right now:

Gore had been involved with computers since the 1970s, first as a Congressman and later as Senator and Vice President, where he was a "genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House. Before computers were comprehensible [...] Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues."[1] According to Campbell-Kelly and Aspray (Computer: A History of the Information Machine), up until the early 1990s public usage of the Internet was limited and the "problem of giving ordinary Americans network access had excited Senator Al Gore since the late 1970s."[2]
Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high-speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1993. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.[3]
24 Jun 1986: Albert Gore introduce S 2594 Supercomputer Network Study Act of 1986[4]
As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill"[5]) after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network[6] submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet).[7]
Indeed, Kleinrock would later credit both Gore and the Gore Bill as a critical moment in Internet history:
A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted legislation that resulted in President George H.W Bush signing the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated $600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the National Research and Education Network [13–14]. The NREN brought together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking.[8]
The bill was passed on Dec. 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII)[9] which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway". President George H. W. Bush predicted that the bill would help "unlock the secrets of DNA," open up foreign markets to free trade, and a promise of cooperation between government, academia, and industry.[10]
Prior to its passage, Gore discussed the basics of the bill in an article for the September 1991 issue of Scientific American entitled Scientific American presents the September 1991 Single Copy Issue: Communications, Computers, and Networks. His essay, "Infrastructure for the Global Village", commented on the lack of network access described above and argued: "Rather than holding back, the U.S. should lead by building the information infrastructure, essential if all Americans are to gain access to this transforming technology"[11] [...] "high speed networks must be built that tie together millions of computers, providing capabilities that we cannot even imagine."[12]
[edit]Mosaic


Plaque commemorating the creation of the Mosaic web browser.
Perhaps one of the most important results of the Gore Bill was the development of Mosaic in 1993.[13][14] This World Wide Web browser is credited by most scholars as beginning the Internet boom of the 1990s:
Gore's legislation also helped fund the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where a team of programmers, including Netscape founder Marc Andreessen, created the Mosaic Web browser, the commercial Internet's technological springboard. 'If it had been left to private industry, it wouldn't have happened,' Andreessen says of Gore's bill, 'at least, not until years later.'[15]

Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
To give an honest straight forward answer to the op, I am worse off financially speaking. My investment property has plummeted in value, the price of timber fell like a rock and I had to lay off my 3 employees. I can keep myself busy but just couldn't afford the insurance on employees after my profit margin shrunk so much. Laying those guys off was one of the worst days of my life thats for sure, there were some very long faces.
 
To give an honest straight forward answer to the op, I am worse off financially speaking. My investment property has plummeted in value, the price of timber fell like a rock and I had to lay off my 3 employees. I can keep myself busy but just couldn't afford the insurance on employees after my profit margin shrunk so much. Laying those guys off was one of the worst days of my life thats for sure, there were some very long faces.
Sorry. I was lucky to see this coming and my wife had an excellent offer in MI where property values didn't bubble as much as they did in AZ, but still declined to well below their replacement cost preceding the rest of the nation. As I have posted in the past, a realtor advised me as we were flying over the western outskirts of the Phoenix area to buy another home as an 'investment' and sell it when it was completed and make about 10% in a few months. We needed a lot of lumber to build homes so people could buy them as a vacant investment. And many are still vacant. Yup, banks did what they wanted, no regulation necessary, write a mortgage/CDO. I sold our Scottsdale house, FISBO, about 8% below peak. Now we have a water front home in MI, a home in AZ and today the title company informed us that our 2nd AZ home short sale purchase was a go well below the cost to build today. Cheap studs. Three homes for the price of one.

I should add that all the above was set up by what was done by 'free' market forces starting about a decade ago. Our 'stock market investments' have done very well lately.
 
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I think what irks the right wing about Obama is that nothing sticks to him. He's Clinton II. He could rape Reagan's mother and jizz on the Constitution and most of the population would still like him. The man is political gold. I see him becoming the go-to endorsement after his 8th year.
 
I think what irks the right wing about Obama is that nothing sticks to him. He's Clinton II. He could rape Reagan's mother and jizz on the Constitution and most of the population would still like him. The man is political gold. I see him becoming the go-to endorsement after his 8th year.

Sorry but I really doubt that. His last four years will likely be better than the first four though.
 
I think what irks the right wing about Obama is that nothing sticks to him. He's Clinton II. He could rape Reagan's mother and jizz on the Constitution and most of the population would still like him. The man is political gold. I see him becoming the go-to endorsement after his 8th year.

Meh, I'm not too concerned over him, or any other president. No matter who gets elected, it's guaranteed that he's not going to fulfill his promises during the campaign trail, and very likely that he's going to be a douche.

Reagan: Douchebag
Bush: Douchebag
Clinton: Douchebag
W Bush: Douchebag
Obama: Douchebag
???: Probably going to be a douchebag
 
I think what irks the right wing about Obama is that nothing sticks to him. He's Clinton II. He could rape Reagan's mother and jizz on the Constitution and most of the population would still like him. The man is political gold. I see him becoming the go-to endorsement after his 8th year.

He is the epitome of the Manchurian Candidate............
 
So why are you insuating things like this in post 240



BTW I do think Al Gore had something to do with the boom of the 90's and how we are communicating right now:

Gore had been involved with computers since the 1970s, first as a Congressman and later as Senator and Vice President, where he was a "genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House. Before computers were comprehensible [...] Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues."[1] According to Campbell-Kelly and Aspray (Computer: A History of the Information Machine), up until the early 1990s public usage of the Internet was limited and the "problem of giving ordinary Americans network access had excited Senator Al Gore since the late 1970s."[2]
Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high-speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1993. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.[3]
24 Jun 1986: Albert Gore introduce S 2594 Supercomputer Network Study Act of 1986[4]
As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill"[5]) after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network[6] submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet).[7]
Indeed, Kleinrock would later credit both Gore and the Gore Bill as a critical moment in Internet history:
A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted legislation that resulted in President George H.W Bush signing the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated $600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the National Research and Education Network [13–14]. The NREN brought together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking.[8]
The bill was passed on Dec. 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII)[9] which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway". President George H. W. Bush predicted that the bill would help "unlock the secrets of DNA," open up foreign markets to free trade, and a promise of cooperation between government, academia, and industry.[10]
Prior to its passage, Gore discussed the basics of the bill in an article for the September 1991 issue of Scientific American entitled Scientific American presents the September 1991 Single Copy Issue: Communications, Computers, and Networks. His essay, "Infrastructure for the Global Village", commented on the lack of network access described above and argued: "Rather than holding back, the U.S. should lead by building the information infrastructure, essential if all Americans are to gain access to this transforming technology"[11] [...] "high speed networks must be built that tie together millions of computers, providing capabilities that we cannot even imagine."[12]
[edit]Mosaic


Plaque commemorating the creation of the Mosaic web browser.
Perhaps one of the most important results of the Gore Bill was the development of Mosaic in 1993.[13][14] This World Wide Web browser is credited by most scholars as beginning the Internet boom of the 1990s:
Gore's legislation also helped fund the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where a team of programmers, including Netscape founder Marc Andreessen, created the Mosaic Web browser, the commercial Internet's technological springboard. 'If it had been left to private industry, it wouldn't have happened,' Andreessen says of Gore's bill, 'at least, not until years later.'[15]

Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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So no response Navy Pride?
 
Sorry but I really doubt that. His last four years will likely be better than the first four though.

Well it was the same with Clinton, first four years didn't really go all that well.

Many Republicans also accused him of being a socialist and a marxist... that's why you can't take those charges seriously.

They're the accusations of an extremely delusional mind.
 
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