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Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?


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Actually, no I don't follow the polls of the RW when it comes to your question because I don't really care that much about people whining, nor do I really know their individual situations. Here, on the Internet, we can get more of an explanation for why people feel they are better or worse off, overall, than we do just from looking at a poll.

Why do you think they are different? Most people have given quite personal reasoning behind why they have it better today than they did 3 years ago, even if its not very detailed for some. Reasoning that, for the most part, has nothing to do with their political lean, and certainly would be very little different if someone besides Obama was in office (providing it wasn't an actual dictator who set up a very restrictive government for everyone).

Maybe those who have fallen on harder times cannot afford to be on the Internet, particularly DP, discussing whether their life really is better or worse. Maybe DP just has a larger amount of people who are able to make their lives better no matter who is President.

So your not even a little curious as to why the voters in DP are so out of touch with the real world?
 
Yes, very much so. I'm well off financially, and I'm getting paid to go to college. Got a place of my own, a new truck, and plenty of things to keep me occupied.

I believe your the exception rather then the rule..........My youngest son is finishing up grad school in June at Arizona St......He was recruited by a handful of colleges and he chose Ariz. st..........He has not paid a dime for his post grad education and already has a job lined up paying $70K a year...........He actually got paid in Grad school..........Of course he carrried a 4.0 GPA as and undergrad and as a post grad.......That probably had a little to do it.........
 
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I believe your the exception rather then the rule..........My youngest son is finishing up grad school in June at Arizona St......He was recruited by a handful of colleges and he chose Ariz. st..........He has not paid a dime for his post grad education and already has a job lined up paying $70K a year...........He actually got paid in Grad school..........Of course he carrried a 4.0 GPA as and undergrad and as a post grad.......That probably had a little to do it.........


You should be grateful that Obama has done so well with the economy, otherwise do you think your son would have gotten a 70K a year job already? With the economy the way Bush left it he wouldn't have had a chance. NO one was hiring.
 
What if I'm better off today than I was 3 years ago because 3 years ago I was in school and not working, and because of all that hard work, I graduated and got a job in my field of study? The president had nothing to do with that.
 
What if I'm better off today than I was 3 years ago because 3 years ago I was in school and not working, and because of all that hard work, I graduated and got a job in my field of study? The president had nothing to do with that.
You hush now. if your life is better, it is because the federal government and Obama provided it for you and if it is worse, it is Bush's fault. You apparently are completely and willfully disregarding the script.
 
So your not even a little curious as to why the voters in DP are so out of touch with the real world?

I'm so sorry I'm actually doing well. Just because you choose to be miserable doesn't mean the rest of us have to.
 
Unless your life circumstances are somewhat unusual (e.g. you're chronically on government assistance, or you're in prison, etc) then the direct impact that any particular politician or group of politicians has on your life is approximately nil. I might - *might* - grant you that perhaps 5% of the variability in your life circumstances is a result of specific people being in charge of the government. The other 95% of it is on you. A qualified person can prosper even in tough economic times, and a disaffected person will have trouble even in good economic times.

When I look back over the course of my life, it has its share of ups and downs. But virtually ALL of the ups and downs are related to my personal circumstances, not politics. I don't think of my own life in terms of who was president when I was 16 or 21 or 27...I don't know of anyone who does.

I sometimes check in here during my lunch break but rarely do I post. I was thinking about this thread this morning though and your post fits into my thoughts. When Bush was pres all I heard from libs was how people just couldn't get by due to his economy, you know the 3.2% growth the average of 4.2% unemployment. Now suddenly like magic with unemployment over 8% and a 1.5% growth rate it is all about personal responsibility and the president has no real impact on your financial well being. This dramatic turn around in your way of thinking is astounding and you are starting to sound like conservatives with all this personal responsibility talk. Congratulations on your epiphany, lets see if it last through the next rep administration.
 
So your not even a little curious as to why the voters in DP are so out of touch with the real world?

You should have asked the question: Has Obama Made America Better off Today Than It was 3 Years Ago

Less room for personal situations.
 
I think the smartest words that a US president has ever said about our personal well-being came from a Republican. A fellow by the name of Abraham Lincoln: "Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."

(Of course, the quote is somewhat ironic, given that he struggled with depression his entire life, but the sentiment is correct. :) )
 
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You should be grateful that Obama has done so well with the economy, otherwise do you think your son would have gotten a 70K a year job already? With the economy the way Bush left it he wouldn't have had a chance. NO one was hiring.

Hussein Obama had nothing to do with it...........Its called having a brain and a 4.0 GPA............Carnegie Sciences recruited him........He had a choice of 3 jobs and did not even take the highest paying one........He took Carnegie because he liked what he would be doing better.........

Yeah when Bush left unemployment was at about 5% now its 8.2% under Hussein Obama......you do the math......
 
3 years ago today I was a sophomore in university. Now I'm graduating and going to go to pharmacy school. I'm "better" off than I was 3 years ago, but it's no thanks to Obama (since I know that's the premise of this thread).
 
Yeah when Bush left unemployment was at about 5% now its 8.2% under Hussein Obama......you do the math......

Do you realize that this thing called Google exists, and when you just completely make **** up, you're going to get called on your bald-faced lie?

The unemployment rate was 8.3% in February 2009 (the first full month of Obama's presidency). Fail.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
 
You say you're a centrist, right?


Centrist <> Post only what Republicans want to hear.
Centrist <> Post only what Democrats want to hear.
Centrist = Post the truth whether Republicans, or Democrats want to hear it.


However, I made another thread today (after posting here), that might shed some light on my recent "changes" in life and how such changes impact my beliefs about the issue of politics in general and the direction in which humanity is headed. I am no longer supporting the current world system of government, of any kind and from any country - including my own. They are all massively corrupt, evil, failed, failing and they do not serve the needs of The People, whom they are there to serve.

Politicians like to use the phrase: "Take back our government."

Well, I've got a new phrase: "Take back our Planet from the Evil Fascist Totalitarianism of the Minority Elite."
 
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I sometimes check in here during my lunch break but rarely do I post. I was thinking about this thread this morning though and your post fits into my thoughts. When Bush was pres all I heard from libs was how people just couldn't get by due to his economy, you know the 3.2% growth the average of 4.2% unemployment. Now suddenly like magic with unemployment over 8% and a 1.5% growth rate it is all about personal responsibility and the president has no real impact on your financial well being. This dramatic turn around in your way of thinking is astounding and you are starting to sound like conservatives with all this personal responsibility talk. Congratulations on your epiphany, lets see if it last through the next rep administration.

Great post.....thank you..........:applaud
 
I believe your the exception rather then the rule..........My youngest son is finishing up grad school in June at Arizona St......He was recruited by a handful of colleges and he chose Ariz. st..........He has not paid a dime for his post grad education and already has a job lined up paying $70K a year...........He actually got paid in Grad school..........Of course he carrried a 4.0 GPA as and undergrad and as a post grad.......That probably had a little to do it.........

Well, I do get the post 9/11 Bill, and I was fortunate enough to be born into wealth, so I do fall under the exception category. Still way better off, because 3 years ago I was a PVT in the Army.
 
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I sometimes check in here during my lunch break but rarely do I post. I was thinking about this thread this morning though and your post fits into my thoughts. When Bush was pres all I heard from libs was how people just couldn't get by due to his economy, you know the 3.2% growth the average of 4.2% unemployment. Now suddenly like magic with unemployment over 8% and a 1.5% growth rate it is all about personal responsibility and the president has no real impact on your financial well being. This dramatic turn around in your way of thinking is astounding and you are starting to sound like conservatives with all this personal responsibility talk. Congratulations on your epiphany, lets see if it last through the next rep administration.

I can't think of any substantial way that my life would have been any different if Al Gore or John Kerry had been president from 2001-2008, rather than George Bush. I can't think of any substantial way that my life would be different today if John McCain had been president for the last three years, rather than Barack Obama. Maybe their priorities would have tangentially affected me in some barely-noticeable way, but in the grand scheme of things my life would be more or less the same.

Obama may be President of the United States, but YOU are President of Your Own Life. If you choose to wallow in misery every time a politician is elected whom you dislike, you're in for an unhappy life.
 
So your not even a little curious as to why the voters in DP are so out of touch with the real world?

Wow!
A majority of those who answered your own poll as being better off today as than we were 3 years ago and we are "out of touch with the real world"?
No "Congratulations to those of us that worked hard,save and invest wisely,and are doing well for themselves" from someone who laims to be "very conservative".
I guess in NP world,"very conservative" means "communist".

Apparently those of us who busted our asses achieving success are "out of touch with the real world" and are to be heaped scorn and hatred in NP world..
I bust my ass for 30 years so that my children can go to good schools,have a better life than I had,and not have to struggles,fight and claw my way like I had to,and I'm out of touch with the real world?
I guess 'taking personall responsibilty" means "blame everyones problemsand all the worlds troubles on Obama" in NP world.
I achieve the American Dream and you put people like me down because I don't share your sociopathic worldview and pathalogical hatred for Obama.
Karl Marx would have been so proud of you.
Glad I live in America and not NP world.
 
So your not even a little curious as to why the voters in DP are so out of touch with the real world?

They're not "out of touch with the real world". Like it or not, they just have their individual lives to live and Obama being President does not automatically make every American's life worse. Some prosper and some fail. It would be the same with McCain in office. Those who prospered and those who failed may have been slightly different, but for the most part, very few would see a drastic change in their situation due to who is President.
 
They're not "out of touch with the real world". Like it or not, they just have their individual lives to live and Obama being President does not automatically make every American's life worse. Some prosper and some fail. It would be the same with McCain in office. Those who prospered and those who failed may have been slightly different, but for the most part, very few would see a drastic change in their situation due to who is President.

I have to agree. Despite my lucky circumstances, I worked very hard to get where I am, and will continue to work hard. I get paid to go to school because I earned that benefit by enlisting in the Army, and was forced to finalize my contract do to an injury that has ruined my leg and back for life. I'm financially secure because someone I love died. I'm not out of touch, I'm simply fortunate in a ****ed up kind of way. I also know how to make the best of a ****ty situation. Obama is whatever. Regardless of who gets elected, some aspect of life is going to suck.
 
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