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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If you are or not explain in what way.
    I am better off. My income is good, the company I work for and my job are stable, I just bought 7 acres in the virginia mountains, and the Republicans are in the process of nominating a pro-choice, pro-public health care, non-traditional Christian for President. Good times...

    EDIT: And, like Thunder, my 401K has done great.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    cool-soon you will be a republican and against the massive proposed taxes on investment income
    I'll never make enough money for it to be worth it to join the GOP.

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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I can't think of any substantial way that my life would have been any different if Al Gore or John Kerry had been president from 2001-2008, rather than George Bush. I can't think of any substantial way that my life would be different today if John McCain had been president for the last three years, rather than Barack Obama. Maybe their priorities would have tangentially affected me in some barely-noticeable way, but in the grand scheme of things my life would be more or less the same.

    Obama may be President of the United States, but YOU are President of Your Own Life. If you choose to wallow in misery every time a politician is elected whom you dislike, you're in for an unhappy life.

    Best post here.

    My life continues to improve along as I age. Every president in my life I have continued to improve in their term. Not about them but more that I have worked my butt off and never live beyond my means.

    As you age your house becomes paid off and you no longer make car payments so things do improve naturally. I also believe if Romney gets elected I probably am not going to notice much difference in my personal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is also not the qustion he asked.
    Well we have to help our OP devise his own talking points and questions as he clearly conflates them and does not realize where his results went wrong. :P
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Well we have to help our OP devise his own talking points and questions as he clearly conflates them and does not realize where his results went wrong. :P
    But it's more fun after he has screwed up.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I am better off. My income is good, the company I work for and my job are stable, I just bought 7 acres in the Virginia mountains....
    so jealous of you. I'd love to own some land in Upstate NY.

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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so jealous of you. I'd love to own some land in Upstate NY.
    I don't know what it may cost up there, but if you look around in certain areas of Virginia, you can get beautiful property for less than $10,000 an acre.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Perhaps we need to lower expectations.

    I have friends who bemoan their financial state because they can't afford a 4th flat screen TV for their $250k home. They also have maxed out credit cards, over-sized vehicles with incredibly high monthly payments, and wear designer clothing. Why? Why is that the standard people are trying to live up to and why would it be bad if we lowered our expectations below that?

    I was raised to believe that you leave everything behind when you die, so there's really little point in collecting expensive material crap at the detriment of your other responsibilities or ability to enjoy life. In other words, I don't need a Mercedes when a Ford Focus will do just fine. I don't need a 250k house just 'cause I got pre-approved for that amount. I don't need a flat screen in every room of my house. I don't need to go out and buy a better deck than my neighbor just to say I have it.

    Our material expectations are ridiculous.
    On a personal level I agree with you, I am kind of a minimalist myself. I bought new pickup in 94 that I justified by vowing to keep it 20 years, I am nearly there. Where I disagree with you is how you want to put your values on others and judge them on their life styles. As a financial conservative I believe live and let live, if someone wants to drive a Ford Focus that's fine, if they want a Rolls Royce thats fine too, your life your choice how to live it. Your post on the other hand seems very liberal in that you decide who is right who is wrong and what values people should have. Now that I have that off my chest, when I said we are in an era of lower expectations I was really referring to the fact that for the first time in American history the younger generation doesn't think they will do better than their parents, I find that kinda sad. My fault for not being more clear though, it's like I assume people know what I am thinking, LOL.

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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Perhaps we need to lower expectations.

    I have friends who bemoan their financial state because they can't afford a 4th flat screen TV for their $250k home. They also have maxed out credit cards, over-sized vehicles with incredibly high monthly payments, and wear designer clothing. Why? Why is that the standard people are trying to live up to and why would it be bad if we lowered our expectations below that?

    I was raised to believe that you leave everything behind when you die, so there's really little point in collecting expensive material crap at the detriment of your other responsibilities or ability to enjoy life. In other words, I don't need a Mercedes when a Ford Focus will do just fine. I don't need a 250k house just 'cause I got pre-approved for that amount. I don't need a flat screen in every room of my house. I don't need to go out and buy a better deck than my neighbor just to say I have it.

    Our material expectations are ridiculous.
    Agreed. I've read several studies on the things that actually make people happy, and the things that people THINK will make them happy but don't. To make a long story short, virtually all of these studies conclude that buying a bunch of stuff doesn't make people happy. What actually makes people happy is to spend their discretionary income on experiences - e.g. taking family vacations, visiting a nice new restaurant, going to the movies, trying a new hobby, or (especially) donating it to the less fortunate. Having those experiences is far more important than having new possessions. One of these researches made a great point, that the joy of having new stuff wears off quickly, because we adjust to it. But the thrill of a new experience actually gets BETTER once its over, because we only remember the highlights.

    And that's the principle that I try to follow. I don't mind buying possessions when it's something I actually need or something I will actually use regularly...but I don't like wasting a lot of money buying expensive junk. For any material purchase worth more than $100, I try to ask myself if it will actually improve my life in some way. If the answer is no, then I shouldn't be wasting my money on it.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I don't know what it may cost up there, but if you look around in certain areas of Virginia, you can get beautiful property for less than $10,000 an acre.
    yeah, but if you don't have a house on the property, what do you do with the land?

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