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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Well, let's see.

    Three years ago my husband and I had one kid, expecting another (8 months along in fact), living off of a little less than $2K a month, in a little 2BR apartment, both having a pretty high chance of getting called up to go to either Iraq or Afghanistan and we we're wondering if he would actually ever get a date to go to active Navy. Oh, and the only insurance we had was high copay med and dental (although the premiums were pretty low). We owned a truck that was over 15 years old, so it had some problems.

    Now, he found out his transfer to active duty date around May '09. He makes about the same amount, but we don't have to pay rent or utilities. Plus, since I started school, we also get additional housing money. The family has really low cost med and dental insurance, with little to no copays (military insurance). We have a new car that we can easily afford payments and insurance on. Our house is more than big enough for our family and we can easily afford renter's insurance, plus we have additional safety features with this house that are absolutely wonderful. With the current downsizing going on in Iraq and Afghanistan, the number of IAs going out from the reserves is greatly decreasing, so less chance that I will get IA duty. His job has a decreased chance of having to do IA duty anyway.

    Overall, we are doing much better than we were 3 years ago.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't think you will see a boom like what happened. IMHO I think the next boom will be in energy.
    The recent real estate boom was created when congress demanded banks loan to people that didn't qualify. It was a great ride if you got out in time before the bubble burst, I sold several at top dollar and got stuck with a couple after the collapse. I don't want a boom like that again, just the slow steady growth real estate has historically had.

    As far as energy, we could be having a boom right now lik SD is experiencing if obama would allow Keystone and open up fed lands to drilling. I think you mean some new age boom in alternative energy but that is a long way off imo.

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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Why yes, yes I am. But then again I am the Greatness that is The Good Reverend... how could I not be?
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    I have a job that (ultimately) pays more than the last.
    I'm back in college.
    I'm buying a house.
    I have little debt.

    But why did this happen? I got lucky enough to find work in two industries that are fairly recession proof. I also came of age for FAFSA so that I could file independently w/o my parents information so that I actually qualified for financial aid via grants. And I saved every single extra penny I came across while paying off credit cards (with increased interest rates thanks to ****ty legislation). In other words, I did it through luck, timing, and hard work/frugal living....just like most people have for decades.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I have a job that (ultimately) pays more than the last.
    I'm back in college.
    I'm buying a house.
    I have little debt.

    But why did this happen? I got lucky enough to find work in two industries that are fairly recession proof. I also came of age for FAFSA so that I could file independently w/o my parents information so that I actually qualified for financial aid via grants. And I saved every single extra penny I came across while paying off credit cards (with increased interest rates thanks to ****ty legislation). In other words, I did it through luck, timing, and hard work/frugal living....just like most people have for decades.
    I always say success is based on hard work, perseverance and luck.

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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    I am, although it has nothing whatsoever to do with the government. I'm making more than I was, I'm more stable, have bought two new cars in the past year, etc.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you people think this is a good economy....
    The question wasn't whether or not we thought this was a good economy, it was are we, as individuals, doing better than we were 3 years ago. And it looks like the majority of people are doing better.

    If you think that someone admitting that they are doing better than they were three years ago means they think that we are now in a good economy, then you are leaping to false conclusions.

    This is because, despite what some people will try to claim, the economy is doing better than it was three years ago. As I noted earlier, the economy was completely ****ed 3 years ago. Being better than completely ****ed =/= good. It can mean partially ****ed, mostly ****ed, almost completely ****ed, slightly ****ed, or even just plain ****ed.

    The economy is recovering. It doesn't care who the president is. He doesn't deserve credit for the economy, nor does he deserve blame for it. The president's actual effect on the economy is nowhere near what politicians and pundits would have us believe. It is great political fodder, but it's preying on the ignorance of the masses. Any president would have seen an improvement in the economy over the last three years. It doesn't matter what party they belong to, nor does it matter whether or not they support certain policies. It would have been damn near impossible to not see any improvement from where things were 3 years ago.

    If one wants to make any partisan points about the recovery, they should limit those points to what is logical and rational: Has the recovery been helped or hindered by Obama's policies? Because at most, that's all a president can have an effect on with regard to economic recoveries of this sort. They can hinder them, they can help them, or they can have little-to-no effect in any direction (That last option being the most likely scenario, by the way. Ignore the credit taking and blaming that comes from self-serving douchebag politicians. That's all bull**** they spew in order to get votes for themselves and their party and only an idiot would assume there was any truth to it without researching the ever-living **** out of the information first.)


    Does overall improvement in the economy mean every individual is doing better? Of course not.

    But I'm a "personal responsibility" type of guy, so I don't buy the "it's the government's fault I'm not doing better right now" line of bull****. Not four years after the market collapsed and the economy fell in the ****ter. It's not the government's job to save us from ourselves. If someone is not doing better now than they were three years ago, it is almost certainly not the government's fault. More often that not, the lack of improvement over the last four years is the person's own damned fault. They either didn't adjust to a changing situation, failed to plan appropriately, or were just too damned stubborn to take responsibility for their own future.

    Some people might be in worse situations than they were through no fault of their own, of course. Illness, injury, Natural disaster, etc. If the primary cause of their decline is something that really was an unpredictable event of some sort, then their misfortune isn't their own fault.

    But for most people doing worse now than they were three years ago, they just didn't do a damned thing to make sure they'd be doing better.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    To some extent I agree but the government you are under can and does make it easier or more difficult to succeed economically, obama has made it more difficult. I should say obama and the Dems in DC not just him alone.
    Not in the US. The president is merely a variable in the overall situation. Your ability tot adapt, anticipate, and adjust to those variables is what causes you to fail or succeed. If, after three years of the same variables in place you continue to fail, then you have nobody to blame but yourself because you have failed to adjust, adapt, and anticipate.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Why yes, yes I am. But then again I am the Greatness that is The Good Reverend... how could I not be?


    I will attribute that to almost 3 years ago my son was born, so yes, in every possible way.
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    Re: Are you better off today then you were 3 years ago?

    Let's just say that there's a lot more boom in my Thunder, than there was 3 years ago.


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