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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's a theory that belongs in the conspiracy forum.

    A) Saddam did have both the missiles that were denied him (we counted more treaty-violating missiles flying over our heads in the first 48 hours of the war than the UN found in 10 years), and he did have WMD.

    B) What he did not have were active WMD production lines, which is what we thought he had.

    C) On-record as believing that Saddam had active-production lines are the leadership of both parties back into the 1990's, the Germans, the French, the Russians, the UN, and evidence collected after the fall of Baghdad suggests that even Saddam may have believed he had active production lines. You didn't do well in Ba'ath Party circles by being the one to report failure.

    But yeah. I'm sure that Democrats lied for years so that Bush could justify invading Iraq.

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    At least the majority of Democrats had the good sense to vote against AOF in Iraq. Sadly, all but 7 Republicans voted for it!!!
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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Do you have the names of the oil companies currently operating in Iraq?

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    The increased flow and vital port improvements have produced a 20 percent jump in exports this year to nearly 2.5 million barrels of oil a day, making Iraq one of the premier producers in OPEC for the first time in decades.

    Energy analysts say that the Iraqi boom — coupled with increased production in Saudi Arabia and the near total recovery of Libya’s oil industry — should cushion oil markets from price spikes and give the international community additional leverage over Iran when new sanctions take effect in July.

    “Iraq helps enormously,” said David L. Goldwyn, the former State Department coordinator for international energy affairs in the Obama administration. Even if Iraq increased its oil exports by only half of what it is projecting by next year, he said, “You would be replacing nearly half of the future Iranian supply potentially displaced by tighter sanctions.”
    That's what it was all about! There are many Western oil experts that predicted if Iraq's oil was properly exploited, it could even out produce Saudi Arabia. That's why it was such a valuable prize!

    No, I don't have the names of all the oil companies that are back in Iraq for the first time since they were kicked out when Iraq Nationalized their oil over 3 decades ago.
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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    :

    A) Saddam did have both the missiles that were denied him (we counted more treaty-violating missiles flying over our heads in the first 48 hours of the war than the UN found in 10 years), and he did have WMD.

    B) What he did not have were active WMD production lines, which is what we thought he had.

    C) On-record as believing that Saddam had active-production lines are the leadership of both parties back into the 1990's, the Germans, the French, the Russians, the UN, and evidence collected after the fall of Baghdad suggests that even Saddam may have believed he had active production lines. You didn't do well in Ba'ath Party circles by being the one to report failure.

    But yeah. I'm sure that Democrats lied for years so that Bush could justify invading Iraq.
    Yes, the Obama Admin. is more diplomatic. Hillary announces to the world why Libya has to be bombed back to the stone ages, before she actually does it. Now she has announced Syria must be invaded and the U.S. drones are already invading that country. Way to earn that Nobel Peace Prize, by ratcheting up the war machine.

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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    No, the United States has not been attacked, is not in imminent danger, and Syria is not a nuclear threat.
    Gee, doesn't that sound just like Iraq and Saddam? Coinkydink! Hell no! Gottal keep that USA Military Offense budget up. Screw a bunch of cuts. Gin up another war. Jus' bidness, don't ya' know. That'd be the bidness of the USA. War for Korporate profit.

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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Gee, doesn't that sound just like Iraq and Saddam? Coinkydink! Hell no! Gottal keep that USA Military Offense budget up. Screw a bunch of cuts. Gin up another war. Jus' bidness, don't ya' know. That'd be the bidness of the USA. War for Korporate profit.
    Hillary Clinton thinks that she has to antagonize foreign governments/ entire groups in order to legitimize herself or to springboard her success. (Somehow people think that what makes them a leader or a stand up gal they need to threaten Irans population with nuclear attack.) What a tryrant.
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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's what it was all about! There are many Western oil experts that predicted if Iraq's oil was properly exploited, it could even out produce Saudi Arabia. That's why it was such a valuable prize!

    No, I don't have the names of all the oil companies that are back in Iraq for the first time since they were kicked out when Iraq Nationalized their oil over 3 decades ago.
    Iraq's oil production has been very low for the past two decades. Before GW1 they were producing about 4 million bpd.

    Then it hovered around 2 billion until Bush attacked.. but you can see its recovering.


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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Iraq's oil production has been very low for the past two decades. Before GW1 they were producing about 4 million bpd.

    Then it hovered around 2 billion until Bush attacked.. but you can see its recovering.

    Indeed.

    "Neighboring Iraq has only just begun to methodically develop its oil sector with the benefit of modern
    technology, and has the potential to surpass Saudi Arabia as a producer and exporter. Even if it only achieves
    half of its stated production target of 12 million barrels per day by 2017, an Iraq with significant spare capacity
    would challenge Saudi Arabia’s dominance as an exporter."
    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:QcgOw_9PJEsJ:www.ergo.net/ErgoSpecialReport_Saudi_Oil_Feb2012.pdf+Iraq's+oil +reserves+may+eventuall+surpass+Saudi+Arabia&hl=en &gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShQ0fDPu6u6ZXJXT6F0sNQHLz gIRrq_I4hJHbylYrJyqmeqhc-TnpGsWXMnwOOtelQnouakXBClEN0ZABaty_J_d9vvnZ4VvC3Ay 5LMOwvTzkcWZbQENTSTtkQm1oIo91OKIsLk&sig=AHIEtbRxjt L0rexjO0qR3upyoZRKqKa67g



    "Western oil producers have emerged as the big winners of the Iraq war.

    "Prior to the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq US and other western oil companies were all but completely shut out of Iraq's oil market," industry analyst Antonia Juhasz told Al Jazeera wire service. "But thanks to the invasion and occupation, the companies are now back inside Iraq and producing oil there for the first time since being forced out of the country in 1973."

    "Western producers like BP, Exxon Mobil, and Shell are enjoying their best access to Iraq's southern oil fields since 1972," Business Week noted in its issue of March 4th of last year. (1972 was the year Saddam Hussein nationalized Iraq's oil fields.)"

    "A group led by BP will receive $2 billion per year to develop Iraqs Rumalia field and a Shell-led group is to get $913 million per year. An Exxon-led group is to get $1.6 billion per year, Bloomberg News reports. Each calculation is based on the agreed-to per-barrel fee times the maximum production level, Bloomberg explains.

    David Bender, a Middle East analyst at Eurasia Group, Washington, D.C., told Bloomberg, "Iraq is one of the most attractive oil markets in the world. The international oil companies may feel that getting in at the beginning improves their long-term prospects."
    Western Oil Firms Big Winners in Iraq War - Worldnews.com
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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Indeed.

    "Neighboring Iraq has only just begun to methodically develop its oil sector with the benefit of modern
    technology, and has the potential to surpass Saudi Arabia as a producer and exporter. Even if it only achieves
    half of its stated production target of 12 million barrels per day by 2017, an Iraq with significant spare capacity
    would challenge Saudi Arabia’s dominance as an exporter."
    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:QcgOw_9PJEsJ:www.ergo.net/ErgoSpecialReport_Saudi_Oil_Feb2012.pdf+Iraq's+oil +reserves+may+eventuall+surpass+Saudi+Arabia&hl=en &gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShQ0fDPu6u6ZXJXT6F0sNQHLz gIRrq_I4hJHbylYrJyqmeqhc-TnpGsWXMnwOOtelQnouakXBClEN0ZABaty_J_d9vvnZ4VvC3Ay 5LMOwvTzkcWZbQENTSTtkQm1oIo91OKIsLk&sig=AHIEtbRxjt L0rexjO0qR3upyoZRKqKa67g



    "Western oil producers have emerged as the big winners of the Iraq war.

    "Prior to the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq US and other western oil companies were all but completely shut out of Iraq's oil market," industry analyst Antonia Juhasz told Al Jazeera wire service. "But thanks to the invasion and occupation, the companies are now back inside Iraq and producing oil there for the first time since being forced out of the country in 1973."

    "Western producers like BP, Exxon Mobil, and Shell are enjoying their best access to Iraq's southern oil fields since 1972," Business Week noted in its issue of March 4th of last year. (1972 was the year Saddam Hussein nationalized Iraq's oil fields.)"

    "A group led by BP will receive $2 billion per year to develop Iraqs Rumalia field and a Shell-led group is to get $913 million per year. An Exxon-led group is to get $1.6 billion per year, Bloomberg News reports. Each calculation is based on the agreed-to per-barrel fee times the maximum production level, Bloomberg explains.

    David Bender, a Middle East analyst at Eurasia Group, Washington, D.C., told Bloomberg, "Iraq is one of the most attractive oil markets in the world. The international oil companies may feel that getting in at the beginning improves their long-term prospects."
    Western Oil Firms Big Winners in Iraq War - Worldnews.com
    12 million bpd is pretty optimistic... but I think they could reach 8 million bpd.

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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Indeed.

    "Neighboring Iraq has only just begun to methodically develop its oil sector with the benefit of modern
    technology, and has the potential to surpass Saudi Arabia as a producer and exporter. Even if it only achieves
    half of its stated production target of 12 million barrels per day by 2017, an Iraq with significant spare capacity
    would challenge Saudi Arabia’s dominance as an exporter."
    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:QcgOw_9PJEsJ:www.ergo.net/ErgoSpecialReport_Saudi_Oil_Feb2012.pdf+Iraq's+oil +reserves+may+eventuall+surpass+Saudi+Arabia&hl=en &gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShQ0fDPu6u6ZXJXT6F0sNQHLz gIRrq_I4hJHbylYrJyqmeqhc-TnpGsWXMnwOOtelQnouakXBClEN0ZABaty_J_d9vvnZ4VvC3Ay 5LMOwvTzkcWZbQENTSTtkQm1oIo91OKIsLk&sig=AHIEtbRxjt L0rexjO0qR3upyoZRKqKa67g



    "Western oil producers have emerged as the big winners of the Iraq war.

    "Prior to the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq US and other western oil companies were all but completely shut out of Iraq's oil market," industry analyst Antonia Juhasz told Al Jazeera wire service. "But thanks to the invasion and occupation, the companies are now back inside Iraq and producing oil there for the first time since being forced out of the country in 1973."

    "Western producers like BP, Exxon Mobil, and Shell are enjoying their best access to Iraq's southern oil fields since 1972," Business Week noted in its issue of March 4th of last year. (1972 was the year Saddam Hussein nationalized Iraq's oil fields.)"

    "A group led by BP will receive $2 billion per year to develop Iraqs Rumalia field and a Shell-led group is to get $913 million per year. An Exxon-led group is to get $1.6 billion per year, Bloomberg News reports. Each calculation is based on the agreed-to per-barrel fee times the maximum production level, Bloomberg explains.

    David Bender, a Middle East analyst at Eurasia Group, Washington, D.C., told Bloomberg, "Iraq is one of the most attractive oil markets in the world. The international oil companies may feel that getting in at the beginning improves their long-term prospects."
    Western Oil Firms Big Winners in Iraq War - Worldnews.com
    So, the war in Iraq was worth the losses in treasure and blood.

    Worth it, that is for BP, Exxon Mobil, and Shell.
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    Re: Should America deploy troops to Syria?

    No troops. We donot need another war. We nee diplomacy. Calm minds must prevail. War is not always the answer. This is why foreign policy is very important. I know we all are hurting financially in this country. I need a job but I also need my children to live in a world without war. So if we dont stop this rambo attitude we will never get out of this mess and any other mess we get into. Remember how we got into this free for all in the first place.

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