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Would you go to war to defend the USA?

Would you go to war to defend the USA? (Americans only, please)


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But if you mean one of the States being invaded by a foreign power, yeah, you'd have to go back a few years. It comes from having a good navy. :)

It comes from being surrounded by friendly neighbors who aren't going to allow anyone to tromp through their backyard to get to us. Invading solely from sea or air is extremely difficult.
 
It all depends really.

I would not stand here and pretend that I am some fearless warrior and head over heels patriot, intent on giving my life as a sacrifice for this nation at the moments notice. That is a tough question, and everyone will answer it differently. I suppose if it had to be done, and there was no one else willing to do it, I would. That said, we have a wonderful military, all recruited voluntarily. I guess if it was in the cards for me, I would join. If it was a draft, I guess I would be going.
 
It comes from being surrounded by neighbors CRUSHED IN PREVIOUS CENTURIES who aren't going to allow anyone to tromp through their backyard to get to us BECAUSE WE OWN THE ECONOMICALLY AND POLITICALLY Invading solely from sea or air is extremely difficult. (but we should certainly try to force the Americans to educate themselves and pass health care reform).

Sigh... someone should really try and help those poor savages.
 
That's true. You'd probably have to go back to the 1800s to find a war where we were being invaded on American soil by a foreign power.

1812 was the last time the US was "invaded" by a foreign power unless you count the the attacks by Pancho Villa. I'm not sure Pearl Harbor was an invasion; it is probably more accurately described as an attack. Oh, I almost forgot this... :mrgreen:

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It all depends on what "defending America" means. If it refers to ideology like the justifications we have used for other wars than no. If it is because we were attacked or there was an imminent attack then probably. It would have to be a country attacking us and not some "suspected" group of citizens. We used the justification of the possibility of communism spreading to fight the Vietnam war and that really did not have anything to do with us except a fear of "communism" spreading. Fear of thought is no reason to kill people.

You mean brainwashing by the U.S, media?

"10. Myth: If it is not mentioned in the media, then it is not real. So the CIA’s policy of mass mind control and collective brainwashing can’t be real because the TV news channels and other media outlets never mention it.

Fact: To a large degree, the CIA and the mainstream media are one and the same. The U.S. government’s state media is not like the Chinese, Russian, Cuban, or Iranian state media, but it is still a state media. The only difference is there is the illusion in America that there is a separation between the private sphere of news coverage and the official sphere of power. But in reality, there is no separation. Officials in the highest positions of power in Washington manage the news in America, direct the national conversation, cover up uncomfortable truths, and set the official standards for public debate. They are totalitarian thugs who masquerade as defenders of freedom and providers of security."


Debunking 10 Myths About The CIA?s Psychological Occupation of The American Mind - BlackListedNews.com


I don't understand what you are getting at. Are you saying I am close to the truth or I am wrong? Please explain.

You may say, that I am supplementing your comment.

As far as a surprise attacks on America go, I refer you to:

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Yes, but only if I was actually defending the USA.

For instance, if China invaded (not that it would ever happen), I would want to join the military. I'd probably be some sort of intelligence analyst or something. Not to sound arrogant, but I don't think the military would put someone with my intellectual abilities in the infantry.
 
Lots of 'smart' guys were beside me humping ALICE when I was a 'lowly' grunt. Many a college degree walked point. The very low attrition rate in the 'smart' military jobs, called MOSs for short, means they fill up fast and stay filled.

The much higher attrition rate in the infantry means lots of bodies are needed and 'smart' guys are not going to be set aside until an analyst has a car wreck. Fighting in ground combat mode can ALWAYS use smart guys to outwit the badguys. If you had any grunts as friends you'd be amazed how helpful your 'smarts' would be.

You could be your unit's McGiver! :mrgreen:
 
Lots of 'smart' guys were beside me humping ALICE when I was a 'lowly' grunt. Many a college degree walked point. The very low attrition rate in the 'smart' military jobs, called MOSs for short, means they fill up fast and stay filled.

The much higher attrition rate in the infantry means lots of bodies are needed and 'smart' guys are not going to be set aside until an analyst has a car wreck. Fighting in ground combat mode can ALWAYS use smart guys to outwit the badguys. If you had any grunts as friends you'd be amazed how helpful your 'smarts' would be.

You could be your unit's McGiver! :mrgreen:

Right. My brother in law and I scored high enough to do any job but chose infantry. We thought it would be a great building block for eventually going special operations which we did. The infantry still need smart Officers and NCOs.

When I look around now I have noticed a much higher percentage of soldiers with degrees in the military.
 
Well I have a 4 digit IQ and would be needed to run the Manchurian Candidate Program... Mind control attacks and all that.
 
Was that the German LR bomber project's name? I can never remember.
That's what it's known as. Knowing the Germans, the official title of the project is a long nonsensical jumble of letters.

I did say "until after securing Europe". Hitler expected to have Europe sewn up by the end of 1942. Too bad for him the Russian weather didn't cooperate in '41 - early '42. ;)
They should have left Russia alone, and probably should have looked into getting better allies. Oh well, sucks to be them.


Japan also had a LR bomber project, don't remember it's name either. The goal for them was the west coast using biological or chemical bombs.

The Japanese had all kinds of crazy stuff, wouldn't surprise me one bit.
 
Pearl Harbor was an attack, not an invasion.

I wasn't asked in the original post about invasion. I see now you're trying to reframe the issue. The Japanese took American lives. They were a country, allied with Germany. Germany then declared war on us. You must see that this was us defending ourselves, which was what I was asked.
 
Since U.S military doctrine over the past decade has been that the best defense is a good offense, no, I wouldn't "defend" this country.
 
They were our allies during ww2.

If you're referring to the USSR, we had a common enemy. Any peace between us and Stalin was circumstantial, as evidenced by the immediate emergence of the Cold War after the surrender of Germany and Japan. Germany and Italy were also marxist nations during the Second World War.
 
Germany and Italy were also marxist nations during the Second World War.
Hitler would have had you shot for even saying such a thing.

Mussolini may have understood your mistake.
 
Hitler would have had you shot for even saying such a thing.

Mussolini may have understood your mistake.

Guess Hitler shouldn't have named his own party National Socialism. Mussolini modeled his brand of fascism from socialist, and existentialist principals. He was heavily influenced by Sorel, Nietzsche, Plato, and Pareto. He was also a member of the Italian Socialist Party.
 
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