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Would you go to war to defend the USA?

Would you go to war to defend the USA? (Americans only, please)

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Paratrooper said:
So seven people would not defend their own country, I find that very disturbing. I can understand people not wanting to fight foreign wars but if you wouldn't defend your family and community from a foreign invasion I don't even.......

I also find in interesting that I meet immigrants all the time that care more about this country than people that were born here.
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Hardly surprising. Many of the people who are born here take what we have in this country for granted.
 
Tucker Case said:
**** that takin' orders bull****.

Call me Tucker, leader of the Illinois insurgents.
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See I can respect that. Not everyone is cut out for military life. I suppose the original topic might be kind of vague. I'm thinking of would you take up arms and fight period vs. would you enlist, go to basic training, advanced individual training, get armed and then go off to the fight.
 
I can't believe there are 7 people who will take all the benefits this country offered yet refuse to defend it in a time of war............They are the epitpme of a coward IMHO.
 
Paratrooper said:
See I can respect that. Not everyone is cut out for military life. I suppose the original topic might be kind of vague. I'm thinking of would you take up arms and fight period vs. would you enlist, go to basic training, advanced individual training, get armed and then go off to the fight.
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See that is me. I would fight for my country, but not in the military. Hiding in tree tops for me.
 
Navy Pride said:
I can't believe there are 7 people who will take all the benefits this country offered yet refuse to defend it in a time of war............They are the epitpme of a coward IMHO.
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Why do people put "IMHO" after incredibly arrogant opinions?
 
Depends on the nature of the threat and how the USA will go about it. WWII? Yes. Revolutionary War? Yes. Most other wars that we fought? Nope... Especially not post WWII. Persian Gulf 1... possibly.
 
Paratrooper said:
See I can respect that. Not everyone is cut out for military life. I suppose the original topic might be kind of vague. I'm thinking of would you take up arms and fight period vs. would you enlist, go to basic training, advanced individual training, get armed and then go off to the fight.
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That is how I took it... but if it meant supporting the war effort in a meaningful way then I would almost always.
 
Redress said:
The reality however is if we are invaded, the most useful thing people can do is either enlist, which not every one can do, and/or get the **** out of the military's way. Not being willing to enlist is not in itself a bad thing. Not every one is cut out to be in the military.
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I disagree. Civilian guerrilla warfare is very effective against an occupying force. Any nation considering an occupation below the Mason Dixon line, and the American Midwest would not be there for long. I would not reenlist, simply because a civilian is not bound to the treaties, or conventions that the military must obey.
 
Lokiate said:
I disagree. Civilian guerrilla warfare is very effective against an occupying force. Any nation considering an occupation below the Mason Dixon line, and the American Midwest would not be there for long. I would not reenlist, simply because a civilian is not bound to the treaties, or conventions that the military must obey.
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Or, hell, occupation in any major city.
 
Lokiate said:
I disagree. Civilian guerrilla warfare is very effective against an occupying force. Any nation considering an occupation below the Mason Dixon line, and the American Midwest would not be there for long. I would not reenlist, simply because a civilian is not bound to the treaties, or conventions that the military must obey.
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I think he means get out of the way of those opposing the invasion... not everybody is a fighter nor should they be. We need all skill ranges to win in that situation.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Oh, Hell. If there's alien boots on the ground, I'm going to war whether the government likes it or not. Give me a good enough war zone and I'll write my own paychecks.

We ever get another real revolution in this country, I'm going choose a side no matter what.
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Me too. Anyone need a highly trained intelligence officer?
 
iliveonramen said:
I actually have dreams that we're invaded by the Chinese and I'm hiding out in sewers in a guerrila campaign against them. It's really weird.
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Yes. It is. It really is. They came for the money we owed them, I think.
 
beerftw said:
war is alot of fun,in the middle of trying not to die everyday you get to discover your true self,and who your real friends are.

though i dont condone alot of wars out there,someone has to fight them,and not everyone is cut out to do so.besides the physical and mental strain of war,most people cant handle going from their nice house,car,starbucks everyday to living in foxholes,filling sandbags for 18 hours a day,sleeping in a tent with no heater or ac and bugs and snakes constantly finding their way in,and lastly eating mre's,field rations,and god forbid t-rats.i simply would not expect everyone to handle these situations,let alone tolerate them.

however just because not everyone is cut out for military service and war,does not mean you cant serve your country.everyone should in someway serve their country.if you cant go to war you could run the volunteer fire department,run a soup kitchen,etc.serving your country means to better your country through volunteering to help.
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I have had C-rations and MREs, I have had the German squad rations, I have slept on the ground between a snow bank and a jeep, I have slept at the edge of the woods, just inside a tree line, and spent weeks outdoors without the benefit of a hot meal (or a shower). One year I spent 200 days living outdoors, in the field, in the heat, the dust, the rain, the mud, the cold, and the snow. I gladly gave it all up to live in a 4300 square foot custom built home high on a hillside in Alabama.

I am too unfit to ruck for hours on end and fight when I get to where I was heading. But I know how to gather and interpret facts gathered on the enemy, the weather, and the terrain.
 
I have learned throughout my career that it takes more than grunts to win a war. I have multiple mos, combat arms and support side that I think would be useful in such a scenario.
 
Paratrooper said:
I have learned throughout my career that it takes more than grunts to win a war. I have multiple mos, combat arms and support side that I think would be useful in such a scenario.
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Every little bit counts. I just like to blow **** up, and kill things. 2nd Engineers taught me the joys of explosives and fire, plus I just got a new .38, and I kinda want to see what a +P hollowpoint does to a communists skull. I'm assuming we'd be invaded by communists if the scenario arose. The CIA, FBI, and Intel guys can do all the smart work, I'm more interested in making the highest enemy authority squeal like a pig.
 
Lokiate said:
Every little bit counts. I just like to blow **** up, and kill things. 2nd Engineers taught me the joys of explosives and fire, plus I just got a new .38, and I kinda want to see what a +P hollowpoint does to a communists skull. I'm assuming we'd be invaded by communists if the scenario arose. The CIA, FBI, and Intel guys can do all the smart work, I'm more interested in making the highest enemy authority squeal like a pig.
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Squeal like a pig?

Deliverance style?
 
StillBallin75 said:
Personally, I view "defense of a US interest abroad" as synonymous with offense.
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Agree 100%.
Vietnam was due to a out of control fear of communism; Iraq and Afghanistan - a fear of Islam, (IMO) same with these other adventures(2014 - Iran) as an example.
We must have knowledge to replace fear.
A very difficult thing (Islam) and their nations....we had to "lash out" after 9-11-01, but much more thought should have occurred, as difficult as this is..I think that Iraq was, and needed to be a police state, and it still does..We should have seen this an targeted other areas (Afghanistan and Pakistan - non police states). They simply had no control over their criminal elements (al-Quada). or however this is spelled.
But, all of this is "just musing".
 
Paratrooper said:
So seven people would not defend their own country, I find that very disturbing. I can understand people not wanting to fight foreign wars but if you wouldn't defend your family and community from a foreign invasion I don't even.......

I also find in interesting that I meet immigrants all the time that care more about this country than people that were born here.
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The question in the way is was posed is way too vague for you to get upset over any of the responses.

Are we "defending the USA" when we invade Iraq like we did in 2003?
Are we "defending the USA" in our current role in Afghanistan?

Are we "defending the USA" when we use drone strikes in Pakistan?

The question is too vague.

So the responses are going to vary with how it's interpreted.

If the North Koreans were insane enough to send troops into California, New York, Florida, and multiple other states in the USofA, I don't think you'd see many people saying they would not defend their homeland.

Context. The op left too much out.
 
If we're invaded, by an actual military force, Yeah, I'd sign up. Probably for the National Guard...Or what would be left of it.

But if were talking about actually going across an ocean to "liberate" or "protect our freedoms oversees", then sorry. Count me out.
 
The invader would have to be worse than the Korporate/Military/Industrial Complex that is in charge of our Nation at this time. I am a patriot and a realist. There are some terrible things going on in this country and some truly evil management at all levels. To me it all began with the Federal Reserve and then they allied with the CIA and developed the "Mighty Wurlitzer" and have developed dangerous power, dangerous to the people, and must be judged by their actions. Actions like Iraq, Libya, Granada, Latin America, Vietnam, and many other very profitable for Corporate America wars. $700 billion pissed away on military offense by a Nation that teeters on bankruptcy. Homeland Security, Patriot Act, up your nose government and there ain't no Ghostbusters to call.
 
Canell said:
Presuming you are an American, would you go to war to defend the USA?
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No one has asked what "you" meant.

'You' as in the country going to war, or 'you' as in you specifically as an individual going to war?

You as an individual could still be included in the former, of course, but I think it's a valid distinction that would affect some answers.
 
I would go to war against US in case they invade some EU country.
To invade Us, maybe if it is EU attacking and there are is way to win hmmm..
Yes. Just for the lulz.

NOTE: With my let's say future education I would do gun fighting, I would do far more noble things!
 
Cyrillic said:
I would go to war against US in case they invade some EU country.
To invade Us, maybe if it is EU attacking and there are is way to win hmmm..
Yes. Just for the lulz.

NOTE: With my let's say future education I would do gun fighting, I would do far more noble things!
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Regardless of the reason? Would you have taken up arms to defend Germany in WWII?
 
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