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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Frankly, the greatest danger for the USA is a civil war and breaking apart, imho.
    North against South? Red against Blue states? Democrats vs. Republicans? Star-Belly Sneetches vs. Plain-Belly Sneetches?

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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Destroying the base camps of an international terrorist organizations yes, OCCUPYING that nation for a dismal decade as a back water conflict, no.

    Fighting terrorism doesn't require boots on the ground, that flames terrorism.

    Someday we might learn that lesson...

    I am not going to hold my breath....

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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    I would fill whatever role I could in defense of US soil. Is that even a question?
    But I had to answer 'other' because it's a vague poll question. As some have pointed out, 'defense' is a pretty loose term nowadays.

    Afghanistan was a requirement as far as I'm concerned. If someone punches you, you'd better punch back or you end up being the punching bag. The Taliban were given plenty of opportunity to "do the right thing" and they refused, so **** 'em. Iraq II was a farce.


    As for other things, no I wouldn't (too old) but many things I encourage because we need to be engaged in some kind of action every so often or the military gets soft. No amount of combat exercises or wargames can replace the real thing. We need the occasional military action to keep & hone skills and test new weapons systems. I know many will groan but UN actions seem to be a reasonable means of accomplishing this - we keep a solid military machine and general world opinion of us seldom suffers for it.
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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    we need to be engaged in some kind of action every so often or the military gets soft. No amount of combat exercises or wargames can replace the real thing. We need the occasional military action to keep & hone skills and test new weapons systems.



    OH. MY. GOD.

    In order for our military to be at it's best at any given time, we NEED to be killing somebody somewhere on some relatively routine basis???????????

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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post


    OH. MY. GOD.

    In order for our military to be at it's best at any given time, we NEED to be killing somebody somewhere on some relatively routine basis???????????
    Did you think the term 'battle hardened' was an urban myth that's been perpetuated for millennia?
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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Did you think the term 'battle hardened' was an urban myth that's been perpetuated for millennia?
    So by the same logic itís a good thing for all towns, cities, and states to have some level of violent crime, rapes, gang related activity, and murders so that the police and ER and hospital employees can be on top of their game as well? Letís not leave out some of that pedophilia either. We need some of that so our authorities can be adept at dealing with that too right?

    Itís good for fires to burn down apartment complexes or high rises so fire companies can be ready for when fires strike apartment complexes or high rises?

    Itís good to have a huge natural disaster so emergency responders and all the events that happen after such a tragic event can be prepared for the next natural disaster?

    Hell, we should probably drop an atomic weapon on some ďworthlessĒ community on this planet just so we know how well our nukes and their delivery systems work too right? Itís been way too long since weíve nuked somebody. We have no idea if our current nukes are capable of mass destruction unless we use one every now and again right?

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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Depends on the circumstances. Hell, we were in Iraq to "defend the USA." I wouldn't go abroad to some country who poses no threat to our national security, but if a country were to attack us and there was a proper declaration of war...then yes I absolutely would fight for America.

    I could put petty political differences aside and stand side by side with anyone and fight for our people. However, I would not volunteer to the armed forces if we just decide to blindly attack another nation despite clear evidence going against the government's claims.
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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think he means get out of the way of those opposing the invasion... not everybody is a fighter nor should they be. We need all skill ranges to win in that situation.
    that goes without saying, but in the event of invasion, everybody should contribute to the war effort, whether it's doing the fighting, or supporting the resistance to occupation. There's no such thing as "neutral" when being occupied.
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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So by the same logic it’s a good thing for all towns, cities, and states to have some level of violent crime, rapes, gang related activity, and murders so that the police and ER and hospital employees can be on top of their game as well? Let’s not leave out some of that pedophilia either. We need some of that so our authorities can be adept at dealing with that too right?

    It’s good for fires to burn down apartment complexes or high rises so fire companies can be ready for when fires strike apartment complexes or high rises?

    It’s good to have a huge natural disaster so emergency responders and all the events that happen after such a tragic event can be prepared for the next natural disaster?

    Hell, we should probably drop an atomic weapon on some “worthless” community on this planet just so we know how well our nukes and their delivery systems work too right? It’s been way too long since we’ve nuked somebody. We have no idea if our current nukes are capable of mass destruction unless we use one every now and again right?
    I do not think frivolous military actions are a good thing and I implied as much when I stated UN actions were OK. Very few if any UN actions have been frivolous. I'm sorry you didn't make that obvious connection.


    As for your psychotic rant here, sadly there are many instances and situations that seem to present themselves all on their own without any assistance from us.

    - Police and firefighters die every day, their 'wars' never seem to end.
    - ER's and hospitals are often overflowing from highway massacre because one lone idiot decided they needed to send a text message or put on makeup in the middle of rush-hour traffic.
    - Pedophilia and rape are an everyday occurrence and I don't think anyone is every 'ready' to deal with that trauma.
    - Natural disasters are something we deal with when we have to and, yes, having people around that have been through similar incidents DOES help those who have never been through it before. Unfortunately, we get enough natural disasters that there's never a time who no one has been in one.

    Bad things already happen day to day, everyday right here in America. You didn't know this?

    Thank God wars are much less frequent. If you're young I understand your confusion, we've had more than our share of warfare of late. Of course, 75% of our recent fighting (Iraq II) wasn't called for and the UN certainly didn't sanction it - or did you miss that part of my post?
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    Re: Would you go to war to defend the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    North against South? Red against Blue states? Democrats vs. Republicans? Star-Belly Sneetches vs. Plain-Belly Sneetches?
    Sorry, I lost my crystal ball. JK.

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