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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 million. Agree/Disagree
    Agree. A nice sliding scale, progressive tax structure is what's needed. We should start removing tax holes too like charitable donations and kids.
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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 million. Agree/Disagree
    As DarkWizard12 already stated no one should pay more or less. There should be a flat tax.I find it hypocritical for people who use the tax code to pay little or no income taxes to piss bitch and moan about others using that same tax code to pay a less effective income tax rate.
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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    It's funny, we see the Fox brainwash effect on the two people who voted no.

    Pathetic really that piss-poor negative fear propaganda reaches such a large audience. You can track the downfall of our country by the size of the Fox News audience.

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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    As DarkWizard12 already stated no one should pay more or less. There should be a flat tax.I find it hypocritical for people who use the tax code to pay little or no income taxes to piss bitch and moan about others using that same tax code to pay a less effective income tax rate.
    In theory a flat tax is great, in practice it's highly regressive. You need more of a progressive scale to make it work well.
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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In theory a flat tax is great, in practice it's highly regressive. You need more of a progressive scale to make it work well.
    A flat tax in the form of a national sales tax would work best. The more you spend the more you pay in taxes, the less you spend the less you pay in taxes. Rich people obviously spend more money and therefore would still pay more in taxes. Poor people obviously spend less money and therefore would pay less in taxes. This would simplify the tax code and make it so that Americans are not wasting **** load of money each year on tax preparers. We could make exception to food that costs below a certain amount so that people are not paying taxes on necessities.
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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A flat tax in the form of a national sales tax would work best. The more you spend the more you pay in taxes, the less you spend the less you pay in taxes. Rich people obviously spend more money and therefore would still pay more in taxes. Poor people obviously spend less money and therefore would pay less in taxes. This would simplify the tax code and make it so that Americans are not wasting **** load of money each year on tax preparers. We could make exception to food that costs below a certain amount so that people are not paying taxes on necessities.
    To degrees, but even that is exceedingly regressive. There has to be some amount of dynamic which takes into account really poor people have much less "disposable" income and as such taxes on their wages means a hell of a lot more than that same tax on richer folk. Which is why you develop a form of progressive tax scale to account for that. But if you can propose something along the lines, I'll listen. I'm not discounting the form of tax, but rather just stating there are realities which must be accounted for.
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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    This is a pretty silly thread. People making $40,000 do not pay higher taxes either as a rate or a nominal amount. Nearly 50% of the country has no income tax obligation at all. The top 2% of the earners pay something like 40% of all income taxes. This question stems from Buffett who is deliberately misleading people. You have to be fairly gullible to believe that Buffett's secretary pays a higher tax rate than Buffett does.

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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 million. Agree/Disagree
    I know of no possibility of this. It doesn't happen. It may be that I'm taking what you wrote literally. On a question of arithmetic that is what an engineer tends to do, sorry. But, when you make a statement this way you open yourself for many of the responses you get that make no sense. Please add a few words so I know what you you are thinking about.

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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    I don't think the issue is necessarily a progressive tax, I think it's more the ability for individual tax brackets to be shifted and manipulated by themselves, leading to a host of problems. I'd be fine with a progressive tax system where the brackets are assigned a base percentage and can't be changed on their own....and then have one national "tax rate" that multiplies that.

    So just in theory, say you have three brackets set at 1%, 3%, and 5% respectively. If the "National Tax Rate" is set to 1 then people in each bracket would be paying 1%, 3%, and 5% respectively. If the "NTR" was set to 5 then they'd be doing 5%, 15%, 25%. Set it to 15 and you've got 15%, 45%, and 75%. (not saying use only three brackets or that variation, but just showing my meaning).

    I'd even say have a lowest bracket at 0.1% or 0.2% and have it based off the average "cost of living" calculated in a way that averages both big city living down to small town living, and focusing on necessities. That number would be small enough that they're not really being taxed much, but enough that they at least are taxed a bit.

    That gives you a progressive system that allows people to at the very least not be taxed beyond "survival" but also disallows politicians to utilize individual brackets as a means of buying votes and prohibits increases from happening unless it occurs across the board to a degree.

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    Re: Someone making 40K per year should not pay more in taxes than someone making 10 m

    This is a pretty silly thread. People making $40,000 do not pay higher taxes either as a rate or a nominal amount.
    Yup question should be reworked, seems to be written in such a way to be more than poll. It seems to be based on the buffet rule but written in such a way that it has nothignng to do with it.
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