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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    So you believe that if someone is following you, you should have the legal right to shoot them dead on the spot? Interesting.
    Of course that is PRECISELY what I said. Right?

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    If that person being followed begins to run from the individual following them, does that make them appear guilty of a crime, giving even more of a reason to pursue further?
    No one has said anything like this.

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    Running from someone(whether they are a criminal or not) is now a deemed a crime, beware! Maybe you should warn your children not to run from strangers.
    Hyperbole at it's best.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    If that person being followed begins to run from the individual following them, does that make them appear guilty of a crime, giving even more of a reason to pursue further?

    Running from someone(whether they are a criminal or not) is now a deemed a crime, beware! Maybe you should warn your children not to run from strangers.
    Anyone who follows people and isn't a cop or a licensed PI should be considered a threat.. I mean GET A LIFE........

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    But that entirely misses the point. What does your own personal reasons for tailing people, have to do with from THEIR perspective, whether or not you think they would believe that being followed by an UNKNOWN person, was agressive or not?
    It doesn't but that is not the problem here as it is legal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    I don't think anyone is curious about knowing whether or not you believe your own acts of following are "predatory" or not, that's not the point. It's what you think THEY perceive being followed as (or you).
    I have been followed. I turn around and say can I help you? Only one time was it an issue as the person pulled a knife. I laughed and pulled my badge and handcuffs and he ran. Notice I did not pull a gun? So in only one case out of many was predatory behavior the cause. The other person feeling threatened or not is irrelevant. I have seen people headed in the same direction think they were being followed and feeling threatened. Well they just happened to be going the same way and were never in any danger, yet they felt threatened. So what they perceive has no bearing other than it is not illegal to be followed unless it is repeated behavior.

    If you call the police and say "someone followed me home" the police will ask you "did he/she actually do anything?" you say " they just followed me" and the police will take a report and say if it happens again call us, otherwise not much we can do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    And an aside, you note to that you either disegnage or call the authorities (seems adult and reasonable). Why don't you confront them personally? Would that carry some additional unecessary risks?
    I am not everyone and they are not me. Everyone handles things differently. I was trained and know my boundaries, others don't. So that is something that should be taken on a case by case basis in my opinion.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Is following someone an aggressive act?

    Simple question, simple answer.

    I don't believe that it is. If it was then police would not be able to legally follow people. Investigators (PI's) would not legally be able to do it. Paparazzi would not be able to do it.
    Why do you assume that being aggressive would automatically make something illegal? It's an aggressive act to call someone "useless piece of **** who should have been aborted" but it's not illegal. It's an aggressive act to give someone the finger, but it's not illegal. Walking around carrying a sign that says "God hates Fags" is an aggressive act, but yet again, it's not illegal.

    The problem here is that you seem to have the delusion that being an aggressive act automatically means something will become illegal when there is absolutely no evidence to support that belief.

    And with regard to the poll question, it's not so simple as being always aggressive or always not aggressive. Following someone can certainly be an aggressive act. More importantly, though, it can be seen as a threatening behavior when one follows a stranger.

    All you need to do to prove this is to find a random stranger. In fact, find a stranger that is far bigger and stronger than you. Someone who can easily kick the living **** out of you without much thought. Now you just have to follow that stranger around for a while. If they try to get away from you, track them down and keep following them. Watch their reactions. Get close to them and make sure they know you are following them. Then, if they confront you about it, be honest. If they say "what's your problem?" say "I'm just following you. Nothing to worry about."

    Hell, if you really want to test the hypothesis that following someone isn't aggressive or threatening, ask them if they have a girlfriend or wife that you can follow for a while.

    If you think that doing such things might be dangerous for you, then you have your answer: Following someone around can be aggressive/threatening.

    If you don't think there would be any danger to you, then I say that you should test the theory.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Anyone who follows people and isn't a cop or a licensed PI should be considered a threat.. I mean GET A LIFE........
    It's a good thing most people don't go around being afraid of everything. I could not live with that kind of fear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I have been followed. I turn around and say can I help you?
    The key here is the answer to the following question: why, exactly, do you turn around and ask that?
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It's a good thing most people don't go around being afraid of everything. I could not live with that kind of fear.
    Feeling threatened by a stranger that is following you is a far cry from being afraid of everything.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why do you assume that being aggressive would automatically make something illegal? It's an aggressive act to call someone "useless piece of **** who should have been aborted" but it's not illegal. It's an aggressive act to give someone the finger, but it's not illegal. Walking around carrying a sign that says "God hates Fags" is an aggressive act, but yet again, it's not illegal.

    The problem here is that you seem to have the delusion that being an aggressive act automatically means something will become illegal when there is absolutely no evidence to support that belief.

    And with regard to the poll question, it's not so simple as being always aggressive or always not aggressive. Following someone can certainly be an aggressive act. More importantly, though, it can be seen as a threatening behavior when one follows a stranger.

    All you need to do to prove this is to find a random stranger. In fact, find a stranger that is far bigger and stronger than you. Someone who can easily kick the living **** out of you without much thought. Now you just have to follow that stranger around for a while. If they try to get away from you, track them down and keep following them. Watch their reactions. Get close to them and make sure they know you are following them. Then, if they confront you about it, be honest. If they say "what's your problem?" say "I'm just following you. Nothing to worry about."

    Hell, if you really want to test the hypothesis that following someone isn't aggressive or threatening, ask them if they have a girlfriend or wife that you can follow for a while.

    If you think that doing such things might be dangerous for you, then you have your answer: Following someone around can be aggressive/threatening.

    If you don't think there would be any danger to you, then I say that you should test the theory.
    Actually Tucker that is an interesting point. Legal vs threatening. Wish I had thought of it, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The key here is the answer to the following question: why, exactly, do you turn around and ask that?
    I was being nosy in most cases. In others I was following people acting suspicious and some involved arrests. Private citizens sometimes need to police there own neighborhoods.

    I am not afraid of to much so don't get threatened easily, maybe by my wife, lol.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 04-16-12 at 06:02 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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