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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Should you be able to legally pull out a gun and kill them?
    Yes, of course.

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Yes, of course.
    Then it's a pity Trayvon Martin wasn't armed, because he could have legally shot Zimmerman dead on the spot, right?

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Should you be able to legally pull out a gun and kill them?
    For just following? No.

    Going to have to disagree with Joko on this one. Under the law just following someone is NOT a reason to shoot them. There must be a CLEAR and PRESENT threat, grievous bodily injury or to stop a forcible felony being committed.

    For example: You are being followed by a plain closed investigator or police officer. You feel threatened and shoot them for just following you. You are going to jail for aggravated assault at least.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Would you feel threatened enough, say early evening, in a very public place, to attack them without discussion of what was going on?




    Robbery is a forcible felony, and can be met with lethal force under SYG in FL.
    Absolutely, it rings true here in La. as well. It get's tricky though when the assailant decides to flee, even if you are in the right it's what the jury believes that determines your fate. For instance if there is a defensive shooting because the assailant declared a gun(very stupid move if you a) don't have one b) wanted to act big or c) wanted to scare the other guy) you have to prove it in court that it was the case that the declaration made you fear for your safety. As well under the laws concerning felonious assault you must give the assailant the opportunity to flee should they run.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Should you be able to legally pull out a gun and kill them?
    When does it go from simply being a nuisance to becoming a threat? At what point would someone be justified to defend him or her self...AFTER the individual in question committed an act of assault?

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    When does it go from simply being a nuisance to becoming a threat? At what point would someone be justified to defend him or her self...AFTER the individual in question committed an act of assault?
    So you believe that if someone is following you, you should have the legal right to shoot them dead on the spot? Interesting.

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    When does it go from simply being a nuisance to becoming a threat? At what point would someone be justified to defend him or her self...AFTER the individual in question committed an act of assault?
    That is what judges and jury's are for in the end. Unfortunately people are going to over react to situations or even under react. This however should not affect the ability of others to defend themselves if threatened.

    It's a good question Vance, with no real acceptable answer for everyone.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Is following someone an aggressive act?

    Simple question, simple answer.

    I don't believe that it is. If it was then police would not be able to legally follow people. Investigators (PI's) would not legally be able to do it. Paparazzi would not be able to do it.
    you're comparing a perfect stranger or parazzi chasing after someone for a cover shot or to simply be nosy...to a police officer following a suspected perp????????????????????

    that's adorable.

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    Re: Following someone.

    If that person being followed begins to run from the individual following them, does that make them appear guilty of a crime, giving even more of a reason to pursue further?

    Running from someone(whether they are a criminal or not) is now a deemed a crime, beware! Maybe you should warn your children not to run from strangers.

    It may only be a nice(armed man)who wants to hold you child until the police arrive.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Perfect example; I am no predator and stay out of trouble, and yet I have for various reasons followed people. So that is that.
    But that entirely misses the point. What does your own personal reasons for tailing people, have to do with from THEIR perspective, whether or not you think they would believe that being followed by an UNKNOWN person, was agressive or not? I don't think anyone is curious about knowing whether or not you believe your own acts of following are "predatory" or not, that's not the point. It's what you think THEY perceive being followed as (or you).

    And an aside, you note to that you either disegnage or call the authorities (seems adult and reasonable). Why don't you confront them personally? Would that carry some additional unecessary risks?

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