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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its 18 fla state law and 21 by federal law.

    What is the legal age to purchase a gun in Florida
    I think your link is wrong. Have a .gov?

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ive read this entire post twice and I agree with it....one point I would like to stress...Zimmerman being told to back off and WAIT for the police to arrive by the dispatcher before the shooting took place in my mind makes him culpable to a degree...if he had obeyed the dispatcher and backed off martin the shooting may very well have never had to occur....So far I have not read nor seen any reason that zimmerman was forced to have physical contact with martin after the warning by the dispatcher.
    I completely agree.

    Although I personally think murder 2 is too strong of a charge. I think a voluntary manslaughter charge based on imperfect self-defense is appropriate.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I completely agree.

    Although I personally think murder 2 is too strong of a charge. I think a voluntary manslaughter charge based on imperfect self-defense is appropriate.
    I dont think he will get convicted of 2nd degree...as to what he should be charged with Ill hold my opinion until the trial brings out ALL the facts and nuances that none of us can know.

    Id like to say I dont view this as a black and white issue...I dont consider the color of individuals in my personal determinging of right and wrong or guilt or innocense...I view it strictly from a law enforcement viewpoint....

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    Re: Following someone.

    voluntary manslaughter charge based on imperfect self-defense is appropriate.

    Manslaughter for "imperfect self-defense" ?

    hahahaha







    Forcible felony = *bang*

    End of story
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Manslaughter for "imperfect self-defense" ?

    hahahaha


    Forcible felony = *bang*

    End of story
    Imperfect self-defense is a legal term for situations like this. Cases where a person incorrectly assumes they have a right to self-defense. This is usually applied in cases where either the defendant is actually the initiator of the confrontation by performing some form of threatening act or the defendant is mistaken to believe that their life is being threatened (shooting a person that someone thinks is a mugger when they actually are not a mugger).
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Imperfect self-defense is a legal term for situations like this. Cases where a person incorrectly assumes they have a right to self-defense. This is usually applied in cases where either the defendant is actually the initiator of the confrontation by performing some form of threatening act or the defendant is mistaken to believe that their life is being threatened (shooting a person that someone thinks is a mugger when they
    actually are not a mugger).
    Belief of intent which can be a legitimate defense

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Imperfect self-defense is a legal term for situations like this. Cases where a person incorrectly assumes they have a right to self-defense. This is usually applied in cases where either the defendant is actually the initiator of the confrontation by performing some form of threatening act or the defendant is mistaken to believe that their life is being threatened (shooting a person that someone thinks is a mugger when they actually are not a mugger).
    Florida law doesn't recognize imperfect self-defense.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Florida Statutes

    776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
    (1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
    (2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.

    776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—
    (1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
    (3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think your link is wrong. Have a .gov?

    Scroll down...it clearly states the statute and that 18 is the legal age


    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/florida.pdf

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    Re: Following someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Florida law doesn't recognize imperfect self-defense.
    That's unfortunate. It does explain why he's getting charged with 2nd degree murder instead of voluntary manslaughter, though.
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