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If you could go back in time to 2004 would you still vote for Bush?

If you could go back in time would you still vote for Bush over John Kerry?

  • Yes I would still vote for Bush!

    Votes: 25 73.5%
  • No I would change my vote!

    Votes: 5 14.7%
  • Tear up my bollot paper!

    Votes: 4 11.8%

  • Total voters
    34
Personally I think the better question would be Bush v Gore.

Maybe but given what a Pimp Gore has become (people whine about Romney being a flip flopper, they ought to see Gore's ratings on various issues as a senator vs as a member of the clinton administration and then as a candidate) in terms of making millions of off being an enviro-snake oil salesman (that his mansion emits more "carbon" then most small businesses or subdivisions is a clue) Bush was obviously the right choice
 
as I said before SB im unsure Gore could of handled 9/11 in the manner it needed to be handled.


well he would have sent the EPA after OBL due to all the pollutants emitted when the WTC collapsed and burned
 
Maybe but given what a Pimp Gore has become (people whine about Romney being a flip flopper, they ought to see Gore's ratings on various issues as a senator vs as a member of the clinton administration and then as a candidate) in terms of making millions of off being an enviro-snake oil salesman (that his mansion emits more "carbon" then most small businesses or subdivisions is a clue) Bush was obviously the right choice

Whether you're right or not, I don't think that has any bearing on his ability to perform as Commander in Chief. That's my $0.02.
 
as I said before SB im unsure Gore could of handled 9/11 in the manner it needed to be handled.

Alright Higgs, how exactly do you think Bush handled 9/11 well, and in what sense do you think anyone else in the same position would not have handled it likewise?

Personally, I think 9/11 resulted in perhaps one of the most disastrous decades foreign-policy-wise in the history of our country.

The only positive I can really say about Bush and 9/11 is that he appropriately dedicated more resources to the intelligence community and national security structure, however I think now there was such an overreaction that the bureaucracy is now completely bloated.
 
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Alright Higgs, how exactly do you think Bush handled 9/11 well, and in what sense do you think anyone else in the same position would not have handled it likewise?

Personally, I think 9/11 resulted in perhaps one of the most disastrous decades foreign-policy-wise in the history of our country.

in terms on the initial response I think Bush did well, he was calm, he kept the USA united, reached out to other countries and struck Afghan ( and didnt rush into it as some wanted him to). Of course Iraq has its critics but I dont see that connected to 9/11.
 
in terms on the initial response I think Bush did well, he was calm, he kept the USA united, reached out to other countries and struck Afghan ( and didnt rush into it as some wanted him to).

Personally, I think most individuals placed into a similar situation would do exactly the same.

Of course Iraq has its critics but I dont see that connected to 9/11.

It wasn't, but at the time one of the arguments for going to war was that Iraq was linked to AQ. I think the possibility exists that if 9/11 had not happened, Iraqi Freedom would perhaps not have happened.
 
Personally, I think most individuals placed into a similar situation would do exactly the same.



It wasn't, but at the time one of the arguments for going to war was that Iraq was linked to AQ. I think the possibility exists that if 9/11 had not happened, Iraqi Freedom would perhaps not have happened.


Of course we can only speculate about Iraq but I think by the end of the 90's it was clear that eventually we would invade Iraq. As for most individuals placed into a similar situation doing the same as Bush, yes its possible but Bush was the president and he handled it in that manner and he deserves credit all we can do is guess on how Gore or anyone else would of handled it. I guess thats the beauty of history, we can speculate but at the end of the day its set in stone.
 
well he would have sent the EPA after OBL due to all the pollutants emitted when the WTC collapsed and burned
Bush started a war in another country and forgot about OBL all together.
 
Can I have some of what you're smoking?

You are a far lefty You obviously wanted a somewhat lefty like Kerry or Gore (who became a lefty only when he was trying for the white house)

bush was the better choice for someone like me who tires of being told I need to pay more and more taxes to fund the crap you want. SO tell me, why would Gore or Kerry have been the better choice for me?
 
Bush started a war in another country and forgot about OBL all together.


that is the propaganda the leftwing spews. How many people do you know were high placed members of the administration that can confirm or deny that claim of yours?
 
Well, I may have considered actually voting for the President given another opportunity.
 
that is the propaganda the leftwing spews. How many people do you know were high placed members of the administration that can confirm or deny that claim of yours?

If we're going to be more accurate I think Katie meant to say that Iraq was a costly and unnecessary distraction from the war in Afghanistan. I don't really think that part is debatable.
 
that is the propaganda the leftwing spews. How many people do you know were high placed members of the administration that can confirm or deny that claim of yours?

The facts of the Iraq war should make this clear.
 
that is the propaganda the leftwing spews. How many people do you know were high placed members of the administration that can confirm or deny that claim of yours?

Tell me where were they hunting for OBL that would be Afghanistan. Why in the middle of a mission or conflict or whatever you'd like to call it do you change direction and bomb a Iraq where al-Qaeda had no serious presence before the attacks and war. Come on now get real. You don't stop chasing the bad guy to do something completely different.
 
If we're going to be more accurate I think Katie meant to say that Iraq was a costly and unnecessary distraction from the war in Afghanistan. I don't really think that part is debatable.

I agree

we should have squashed SH to make an example out of him (notice how Libya came around after that) and left

but I think that war was a mistake

the Military never stopped searching for OBL
 
If we're going to be more accurate I think Katie meant to say that Iraq was a costly and unnecessary distraction from the war in Afghanistan. I don't really think that part is debatable.

You are correct. I have had a glass of wine to many and may not state things as well as I should.
 
Tell me where were they hunting for OBL that would be Afghanistan. Why in the middle of a mission or conflict or whatever you'd like to call it do you change direction and bomb a Iraq where al-Qaeda had no serious presence before the attacks and war. Come on now get real. You don't stop chasing the bad guy to do something completely different.


I doubt you have access to the classified material as to what was being done to find OBL. I don't either but since two of the guys I work with were over there at the time and my nephew just returned from the area after doing 14 months in the SF as a Captain I can tell you that the search for OBL was intense even after the Iraq offensive started
 
I agree

we should have squashed SH to make an example out of him (notice how Libya came around after that) and left

but I think that war was a mistake

the Military never stopped searching for OBL

Agreed, don't think anyone ever really forgot about Bin Laden.
 
I agree

we should have squashed SH to make an example out of him (notice how Libya came around after that) and left

but I think that war was a mistake

the Military never stopped searching for OBL

And the military did a great job finding him under Obama's watch. Bush dropped the ball.
 
And the military did a great job finding him under Obama's watch. Bush dropped the ball.


That is as stupid as saying that Clinton dropped the ball in finding the Atlanta Bomber who was caught by some state deputy sheriff under Bush

the military's mission didn't change from Bush to Obama

You probably believe Obama killed OBL, shot the pirates off of Somalia etc
 
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