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    15 30.00%
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    27 54.00%
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    8 16.00%
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am talking about corporations that play by the rules, thanks to the loopholes that allow corporations to profit by outsourcing American jobs.
    You're pissed off at companies for exercising their right to refuse a seat at the most over priced table in the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    BTW, GE was getting the tax breaks under the George Bush tax code, which the president has proposed changing.
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    For myself, I care more about looking out for the working class and our economy.
    I care about all classes having the freedom to pursue their dreams.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox View Post
    You're pissed off at companies for exercising their right to refuse a seat at the most over priced table in the world?
    No, i am pissed at politicians that give tax breaks to people just because they are rich, without any requirement to create jobs in this country.

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    These are are the Bush tax cuts that Obama proposes ending:

    "Citizens for Tax Justice, which advocates steeper corporate taxes, said it surveyed major U.S. companies and found that 26 on average paid no net federal income taxes between 2008 and 2011, among them General Electric and Duke Energy ."

    Read more: Companies Use Popular Provision to Avoid Income Taxes

    I care about all classes having the freedom to pursue their dreams.
    Well, somehow you missed the class war that is preventing economic freedom for over half the country. There will be a reminder of this in November.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am talking about corporations that play by the rules, thanks to the loopholes that allow corporations to profit by outsourcing American jobs.

    BTW, GE was getting the tax breaks under the George Bush tax code, which the president has proposed changing. If you are for the rich, vote for the King of the 1% - Romney.

    For myself, I care more about looking out for the working class and our economy.
    And yet we constantly hear that this legislation will do nothing to help the middle class. Unless you think this adm will "earmark" these funds for deficit reduction, which will never happen.

    The results are obvious. Once again we will aim to make these megacorps pay more, they will use their armies of lawyers and accountants to game the system and small and mid size business people will get hammered. Happens every time. And at the end of it all we get is less economic activity and more govt spending.

    I've said it before, giving the fed govt more money is like reloading a gun for a monkey.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    I don't recall Buffet ever actually running a small business, so I don't see where his 'advice' is worth anything. Such a bill will be so compromised by the time it gets through committees that it will end up just another tax increase on small businesses anyway.

    It won't address the real problems of jobs, entitlement giveaways to big business, and pork spending. The real problem is still wages and incomes lagging far behind inflation, the fake numbers handed out by government economic agencies being worthless, and the huge decline in disposable incomes of those who actually work for a living. That's the Number One Problem of small businesses, the ones that actually create local jobs incountry, not government regulation, SS, or any of the other bull**** propaganda. They want more sales and customers. I'm talking about actual, legitimate small businesses, not the jerk-offs that try to claim their game room as an 'office' and pretend to be 'dog breeders' and that sort of nonsense for tax write-offs and such. There is nothing on the horizon that will address that, from either 'party'. The top 1% are merely sitting on their cash until the next government welfare program that guarantees them a big return comes along. The sooner it's taxed and spent by distribution through SS or make-work projects and re-circulating through the domestic economy the better for stimulating American small businesses, along with tariffs and taxes on overseas profits from slave labor colonies like Red China and Mexico the better.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, i am pissed at politicians that give tax breaks to people just because they are rich, without any requirement to create jobs in this country.




    These are are the Bush tax cuts that Obama proposes ending:

    "Citizens for Tax Justice, which advocates steeper corporate taxes, said it surveyed major U.S. companies and found that 26 on average paid no net federal income taxes between 2008 and 2011, among them General Electric and Duke Energy ."

    Read more: Companies Use Popular Provision to Avoid Income Taxes



    Well, somehow you missed the class war that is preventing economic freedom for over half the country. There will be a reminder of this in November.
    What's really ironic is that right wingers' current popularity is more dependent on entitlement programs than any other ideology, as without even the meager safety net that exists now they would have been laughed out of existence in Reagan's first two years. As it is, they don't have any real uprisings as Roosevelt had to deal with, and many corporations themselves, particularly Wal-Mart, currently the largest employer in the U.S., and the medical industry and all those wealthy doctors and HMO's rake in a lot of money from programs like Medicare, Social Security, food stamps, etc. If you want to see a real economic and social collapse, just vote for a Libertarian legislature and President. It would be another 70 years before anybody sane would be stupid enough to do it again.
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    This is the same warren buffet who's suing the irs because he thinks his companies pay too much in taxes?


    If the rule is put in place, the projected revenue is 40 billion? Thats not even a dent, it's an emotional law....

    Oh and the reason, i hear he pays less than his secratary is she makes 150k a year, (not your average pay as emotionally the image tries to portray), but he only takes about 75k in salary.

    Ignore the slight of hand here......
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    however, the schemes you advocate would massively increase taxes on the rich

    for example making all inheritances taxed as income meaning every dollar a rich person gets would be taxed at 35% rather than what happens now where only an estate over 5 million gets taxed and at 35% AFTER 5 million

    you also want dividend income taxed first at the 35% corporate rate and then at 40% for those in the top one percent which almost triples taxes on the rich while it really doesn't raise it much on most americans
    Yes - I want money coming in simply taxed according to the normal income tax schedule. This would mean doing away with inheritance taxes as well as capital gains taxes.

    I disagree with this figure you give about 35% and 40%. I only favor taxing income at 35% for those in the top bracket.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    This is the same warren buffet who's suing the irs because he thinks his companies pay too much in taxes?


    If the rule is put in place, the projected revenue is 40 billion? Thats not even a dent, it's an emotional law....

    Oh and the reason, i hear he pays less than his secratary is she makes 150k a year, (not your average pay as emotionally the image tries to portray), but he only takes about 75k in salary.

    Ignore the slight of hand here......
    FORTY BILLION DOLLARS is a great deal of money. The far right gets apoplectic about far far less in their campaign for financial responsibility.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are apparently unable to understand that record wealth means record taxes paid, and that it has absolutely nothing to do with the lowered tax rates for the rich on all income, including capital gains and inheritance. Fortunately, most voters are able to understand this.
    Most voters think someone else ought to pay for the government they want

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes - I want money coming in simply taxed according to the normal income tax schedule. This would mean doing away with inheritance taxes as well as capital gains taxes.

    I disagree with this figure you give about 35% and 40%. I only favor taxing income at 35% for those in the top bracket.
    still too much

    everyone should pay the same rate so the many have no incentive to jack up the top rates on the few

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