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  • It will hurt job creators

    15 30.00%
  • It will raise revenue and help the economy

    27 54.00%
  • It will promote laziness

    7 14.00%
  • It is the definition of socialism

    8 16.00%
  • It will help close the gap between the middle class and rich

    20 40.00%
  • It punishes the upper tier of social darwinism

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Thread: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Why the Buffett Rule Is Needed

    " The average tax rate paid by the very highest-income Americans has fallen to nearly the
    lowest rate in over 50 years. The wealthiest 1-in-1,000 taxpayers pay barely a quarter of their
    income in Federal income and payroll taxes today—half of what they would have contributed
    in 1960. And, the top 400 richest Americans—all making over $110 million—paid only 18
    percent of their income in income taxes in 2008.

     Average tax rates for the highest income Americans have plummeted even as their incomes
    have skyrocketed. Since 1979 the average after-tax income of the very wealthiest Americans –
    the top 1 percent – has risen nearly four-fold. Over the same period, the middle sixty percent
    of Americans saw their incomes rise just 40 percent. The typical CEO who used to earn about
    30 times more than his or her worker now earns 110 times more.

     Some of the richest Americans pay extraordinarily low tax rates—as they hire lawyers and
    accountants to take particular advantage of loopholes and tax expenditures. The average tax
    rate masks the fact that some high-income Americans pay near their statutory tax rate, while
    others take advantage of tax expenditures and loopholes to pay extraordinarily low rates—and
    it is these high-income taxpayers that the Buffett rule is meant to address .

     Of millionaires in 2009, a full 22,000 households making more than $1 million annually
    paid less than 15 percent of their income in income taxes — and 1,470 managed to
    paid no federal income taxes on their million-plus-dollar incomes, according to IRS data.

     Of the 400 highest income Americans, one out of every three in this group of the most
    financially fortunate Americans paid less than 15 percent of their income in income
    taxes in 2008.

     Many high-income Americans are paying less in taxes than middle class Americans in taxes.
    Nearly one-quarter of all millionaires (about 55,000 taxpayers) face a tax rate that is lower than
    more than millions of middle-income taxpayers. This is fundamentally unfair."

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...Igvgngug2m8J7A

    citing White House talking points that are obviously full of crap is hilarious. Why do those turds whine about the top 400 when this idiotic law applies to far more people. GOt to love the loaded class warfare terms of "financially fortunate"

    Another lie-many High income tax payers are paying less in taxes than middle class americans. That is a complete lie unless "high income" also means middle class americans. If it means people making more than a million a year that is a flat out lie

    that a guy who claims to be an expert on finances and taxes "likes" this nonsense is pretty funny as well

    and another lie is that a quarter of millionaires (does this mean people making a million a year or merely having a million in assets) "Face" a tax rate (this is based on the dishonest marginal tax rate rather than effective-it has been proven that Romney's rate-somewhat south of 15% is still higher than NINETY SEVEN PERCENT OF ALL AMERICANS' effective income tax rates)

    in other words its mostly lies

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You have not even proven that. A person offering a different opinion on tax policy is not WHINING. That is a cheap pejorative designed to demean the person holding different views from you.
    Yawn more hacking nonsense. It is whining about the rich based on lies and dishonesty

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Add to that Trillion another Half a Trillion from the Buffett Rule
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/econom...ore-w-7-a.html
    which raises much more than most everyone thinks
    (though there is some overlap with expiring cuts)
    and you're talking Real Deficit reduction from just the top 5%.
    Add in the other 95% of the population and talking perhaps $2-$2.5 Trillion from expired cuts and new rev.

    tax cuts don't cost anyone anything any more than saying rates of less than 100% cost the government money

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Another lie-many High income tax payers are paying less in taxes than middle class americans. That is a complete lie unless "high income" also means middle class americans. If it means people making more than a million a year that is a flat out lie

    And counselor your evidence is?

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And counselor your evidence is?
    You are playing dumb if you haven't seen all the evidence. Even Adam T noted that there is no possible way for anyone in the middle class to be paying a rate anywhere near 30%

    tell me what do you consider the middle class. Millionaires average over 22% effective federal income taxes. numerous posts indicate that Romney's rate of about 14% is higher than 97% of americans. are you claiming that those 3% are anything but "the rich"

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You are playing dumb if you haven't seen all the evidence. Even Adam T noted that there is no possible way for anyone in the middle class to be paying a rate anywhere near 30%

    tell me what do you consider the middle class. Millionaires average over 22% effective federal income taxes. numerous posts indicate that Romney's rate of about 14% is higher than 97% of americans. are you claiming that those 3% are anything but "the rich"

    Man you must in court in ALOT! I asked for evidence not your usual the rich have it so hard crud.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    citing White House talking points that are obviously full of crap is hilarious. Why do those turds whine about the top 400 when this idiotic law applies to far more people. GOt to love the loaded class warfare terms of "financially fortunate"

    Another lie-many High income tax payers are paying less in taxes than middle class americans. That is a complete lie unless "high income" also means middle class americans. If it means people making more than a million a year that is a flat out lie

    that a guy who claims to be an expert on finances and taxes "likes" this nonsense is pretty funny as well

    and another lie is that a quarter of millionaires (does this mean people making a million a year or merely having a million in assets) "Face" a tax rate (this is based on the dishonest marginal tax rate rather than effective-it has been proven that Romney's rate-somewhat south of 15% is still higher than NINETY SEVEN PERCENT OF ALL AMERICANS' effective income tax rates)

    in other words its mostly lies
    Where is your real world data to back up your statements?
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yawn more hacking nonsense. It is whining about the rich based on lies and dishonesty
    No, it is you attempting to demean anyone who disagrees with you on a matter of public policy because you have no actual evidence or data to back up your pontifications.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Man you must in court in ALOT! I asked for evidence not your usual the rich have it so hard crud.

    And I asked you to not feign ignorance and pretend that you haven't seen dozens of posts proving my point.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No, it is you attempting to demean anyone who disagrees with you on a matter of public policy because you have no actual evidence or data to back up your pontifications.
    so you can prove that a quarter of millionaires pay less actual federal income taxes than people in the middle class? You want to demand I prove the earth is round when you accept obama's claim that the sun revolves around the earth

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