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    15 30.00%
  • It will raise revenue and help the economy

    27 54.00%
  • It will promote laziness

    7 14.00%
  • It is the definition of socialism

    8 16.00%
  • It will help close the gap between the middle class and rich

    20 40.00%
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Thread: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I would note that citing Reagan means nothing to me. For that cite to have any relevance I would have to have agreed with everything Reagan did as would those who cite him. I believe that those who cite Reagan don't understand what he was really saying and they certainly see as anathema, his cutting top marginal rates from 70% to the far more sane and fair 28%
    If the so-called Buffett rule happened it would be better at that 28% amount (as in we should go back to 1988 Reagan tax rates). Although I don't see the point of the rule anyway, because Warren Buffet pays the same capital gains tax rate as his secretary. We all pay the same capital gains tax rate.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    If the so-called Buffett rule happened it would be better at that 28% amount (as in we should go back to 1988 Reagan tax rates). Although I don't see the point of the rule anyway, because Warren Buffet pays the same capital gains tax rate as his secretary. We all pay the same capital gains tax rate.
    and Buffett artificially pays himself a paltry salary while his secretary gets 300K or so

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) you keep braying that wait till november. BFD-Come november you will still be whining about the rich no matter who wins. You have been whining about the rich when Obama had complete control of both houses so why is anything going to change even if your beloved Messiah is reelected and his pathetic minions retake congress (not likely

    2) you continually lie about reality. The tax code YOU LOVE when it makes the rich pay not only more dollars but higher rates on earned income than those who use most of the government's services, is the SAME tax code that treats investment income differently. You don't like that because you labor under the parasitic delusion that the rich should pay higher rates on EVERY TAX available and if they get most of their income from investments it is not parasitized as if they have earned income

    3) those who pay a higher EFFECTIVE RATE (yes I understand that issue-your posts demonstrate you do not or you ignore it) of federal income taxes than the 15% the billionaires' pay are still in the top 2%. They are not the ONES whining about investment income because people who are earning 200K or more a year are almost always investing some of that EARNED INCOME. they are also people who tend to be targeted by the parasite pimps in office for higher taxes on earned income as well

    4) since the wealthy pay more than their share its moronic to claim your low taxes are subsidizing them. People like me pay for some of what you use. Not the other way around. What you are really whining about is that you want people like me to subsidize even more handouts to people like you

    I don't know how many times I have to tell you that your far right opinions carry no more weight when you number them then when you don't.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't know how many times I have to tell you that your far right opinions carry no more weight when you number them then when you don't.

    no matter how I lay them out, you are unable to rebut them. Calling them far right doesn't help your point either.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    In Senate, Republicans Block Debate on ‘Buffett Rule’

    "WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Monday blocked a move to open debate on the so-called Buffett Rule, ensuring that a measure pressed for months by President Obama and Senate Democrats to ensure that the superrich pay a tax rate of at least 30 percent will not come to a decisive vote.

    But the fierce debate preceding the 51-45 vote — the Democrats were nine votes short of the 60 they needed — set off a week of political wrangling over taxes that both parties insist they are already winning.

    Senate Democrats intend to return repeatedly to the legislation, named after the billionaire investor Warren Buffett, who has complained that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. On Thursday, House Republicans will counter with a proposed tax cut for businesses that they say would spur job creation but would cost the Treasury almost exactly what the Democrats’ tax increase would raise.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/us...publicans.html


    The difference between the parties on taxes could not be more clear for voters to see!
    Last edited by Catawba; 04-17-12 at 08:39 PM.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    In Senate, Republicans Block Debate on ‘Buffett Rule’

    "WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Monday blocked a move to open debate on the so-called Buffett Rule, ensuring that a measure pressed for months by President Obama and Senate Democrats to ensure that the superrich pay a tax rate of at least 30 percent will not come to a decisive vote.

    But the fierce debate preceding the 51-45 vote — the Democrats were nine votes short of the 60 they needed — set off a week of political wrangling over taxes that both parties insist they are already winning.

    Senate Democrats intend to return repeatedly to the legislation, named after the billionaire investor Warren Buffett, who has complained that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. On Thursday, House Republicans will counter with a proposed tax cut for businesses that they say would spur job creation but would cost the Treasury almost exactly what the Democrats’ tax increase would raise.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/us...publicans.html


    The difference between the parties on taxes could not be more clear for voters to see!
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    true, the dems position is based on lies and dishonesty

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    In Senate, Republicans Block Debate on ‘Buffett Rule’

    "WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Monday blocked a move to open debate on the so-called Buffett Rule, ensuring that a measure pressed for months by President Obama and Senate Democrats to ensure that the superrich pay a tax rate of at least 30 percent will not come to a decisive vote.

    But the fierce debate preceding the 51-45 vote — the Democrats were nine votes short of the 60 they needed — set off a week of political wrangling over taxes that both parties insist they are already winning.

    Senate Democrats intend to return repeatedly to the legislation, named after the billionaire investor Warren Buffett, who has complained that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. On Thursday, House Republicans will counter with a proposed tax cut for businesses that they say would spur job creation but would cost the Treasury almost exactly what the Democrats’ tax increase would raise.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/us...publicans.html


    The difference between the parties on taxes could not be more clear for voters to see!
    Right. Since the Buffet rule collects next to nothing in comparison to overall spending and the deficit, it is an insignificant, partisan plan that can in no way be confused with a serious proposal. Obama is an empty suit with no substantive ideas and the Buffet rule makes that clear to everyone except the blindly partisan.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Right. Since the Buffet rule collects next to nothing in comparison to overall spending and the deficit, it is an insignificant, partisan plan that can in no way be confused with a serious proposal. Obama is an empty suit with no substantive ideas and the Buffet rule makes that clear to everyone except the blindly partisan.

    As noted above, the Republican plan:

    "would cost the Treasury almost exactly what the Democrats’ tax increase would raise."

    Thanks, but no thanks!
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As noted above, the Republican plan:

    "would cost the Treasury almost exactly what the Democrats’ tax increase would raise."

    Thanks, but no thanks!
    I have a great idea-why don't you pay the same rates as you want the rich pay on their income

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have a great idea-why don't you pay the same rates as you want the rich pay on their income
    I would have to get a cut in my total tax rate for that to happen. I already pay a higher total tax rate on my entire income than Romney does on his income.
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