View Poll Results: Your opinion of the Buffet Rule

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  • It will hurt job creators

    15 30.00%
  • It will raise revenue and help the economy

    27 54.00%
  • It will promote laziness

    7 14.00%
  • It is the definition of socialism

    8 16.00%
  • It will help close the gap between the middle class and rich

    20 40.00%
  • It punishes the upper tier of social darwinism

    6 12.00%
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Thread: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This EXACT same argument can be used against those who refuse to cut spending, restructure or remove entitlements, and other such things.

    Entitlement spending did not create the debt accumulated over the last 30 years. That is where your comparison fails.

    Asking seniors to now pay for the excessive military spending and tax cuts for the wealthy over the last 30 years, is like cutting teacher's compensation to make up for budget shortfalls brought about by the recession.

    This kind of distinction between parties though will help the Democrats in 2012, so please carry on.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    I totally agree that Jimmy Buffet rules.






    ..... what?



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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    What's this about buffet rules? Like get a new plate everytime? I think they're a good idea


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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No major fail...doesnt matter where his income comes from, its still EARNED income...thats the only income he has and he paid less a percentage than I did and thats just plain WRONG... no one has to be an accountant to figure out...romny on hundreds of millions paid 13.7....lpast paid more on a minisule portion of that amount, not rocket science there dudey, I NEED THE TAX cut not him and all his buddies...including you.

    Turtle all your repetitive talking points have no effect on us anymore...weve all heard them 2-3000 times....check this out...The tax rate is "SUPPOSED" to be 35% the top 10 corporations paid zero and none of them pay anywhere near 35% so why do they need a tax cut, greed is why.

    Heres a plan for you....GOP and DEM sit down and hash out deficit reduction....and medicare reform in a bipartisan manner, change the tax code....take ALL tax cuts and loopholes off the rich and make tax havens outside of the country illegal....then if theres enough revenue coming in and debt reduction and the debt is dropping....THEN start dropping the tax rate....not when your taking from everyone else... The teaparty wants to take from everyone else and give to the 1% yeah ok...pfffffffffffffft.....they arent the only tax payers..
    You just proved how clueless you are about the tax code. You need to pay more if you are paying less actual dollars than the people you demand more of. What we all need is less government spending. You made a HUGE MISTAKE when you claimed ROMNEY somehow avoided taxes because YOU WERE UNAWARE of the TAX RATES ON INVESTMENT INCOME when you SPEWED THE IDIOTIC COMMENT THAT HE SHOULD BE PAYING 35%

    You also PROVED TO BE A LIAR claiming the corporations should be paying X when they are not. THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW SO YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN;

    I am STATING THE LAW-its you and your envy driven psychobabble that are talking points.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Excellent point! Why should the working class and small businesses agree to pay more so that large corporations and wealthy individuals pay a lower tax rate, especially given that the tax breaks aren't being used to create jobs in this country.
    Excellent point? your nonsense is clueless as well. YOur appeal to mob rule is touching. YOu are dishonestly ignoring that the RICH PAY THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE RATES ON ALL TYPES OF INCOME

    You are dishonest in comparing one type of income with another



    Your envy and dishonesty on this issue is what the pimps in Washington count on. Ignorance and envy are fertile breeding grounds for class warfare

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Excellent point? your nonsense is clueless as well. YOur appeal to mob rule is touching. YOu are dishonestly ignoring that the RICH PAY THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE RATES ON ALL TYPES OF INCOME
    Poppycock. you just admitted above that investment income is taxed now at a lower rate than earned income. Reagan worked to make sure they were taxed at the same rate.

    Otherwise we continue with people like Buffett, Romney, and Obama paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries.

    Perhaps you don't mind subsidizing the tax breaks for the wealthy, but I do. They've done nothing for me but increase the debt and my taxes. Now the GOP says seniors will have to hit the streets so they can cut the tax rates for the wealthy some more!

    It is going to be fun getting to see the greedy get their comeuppance in November!
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Poppycock. you just admitted above that investment income is taxed now at a lower rate than earned income. Reagan worked to make sure they were taxed at the same rate.

    Otherwise we continue with people like Buffett, Romney, and Obama paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries.

    Perhaps you don't mind subsidizing the tax breaks for the wealthy, but I do. They've done nothing for me but increase the debt and my taxes. Now the GOP says seniors will have to hit the streets so they can cut the tax rates for the wealthy some more!

    It is going to be fun getting to see the greedy get their comeuppance in November!
    1) you keep braying that wait till november. BFD-Come november you will still be whining about the rich no matter who wins. You have been whining about the rich when Obama had complete control of both houses so why is anything going to change even if your beloved Messiah is reelected and his pathetic minions retake congress (not likely

    2) you continually lie about reality. The tax code YOU LOVE when it makes the rich pay not only more dollars but higher rates on earned income than those who use most of the government's services, is the SAME tax code that treats investment income differently. You don't like that because you labor under the parasitic delusion that the rich should pay higher rates on EVERY TAX available and if they get most of their income from investments it is not parasitized as if they have earned income

    3) those who pay a higher EFFECTIVE RATE (yes I understand that issue-your posts demonstrate you do not or you ignore it) of federal income taxes than the 15% the billionaires' pay are still in the top 2%. They are not the ONES whining about investment income because people who are earning 200K or more a year are almost always investing some of that EARNED INCOME. they are also people who tend to be targeted by the parasite pimps in office for higher taxes on earned income as well

    4) since the wealthy pay more than their share its moronic to claim your low taxes are subsidizing them. People like me pay for some of what you use. Not the other way around. What you are really whining about is that you want people like me to subsidize even more handouts to people like you

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    DISCLAIMER: I ONLY READ THE FIRST PAGE

    It is the day before taxes are due. The vast majority of the people here should have done their taxes by now. Take your TAXES PAID and divide it by your GROSS INCOME.
    This will give you your actual total tax. I am upper middle class and mine is ~16%

    I cannot bitch about 16%, even if the other guy is getting 14%.....................
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

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    What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule? Gentlemen.... .... take it easy mmkay?

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    I would note that citing Reagan means nothing to me. For that cite to have any relevance I would have to have agreed with everything Reagan did as would those who cite him. I believe that those who cite Reagan don't understand what he was really saying and they certainly see as anathema, his cutting top marginal rates from 70% to the far more sane and fair 28%

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