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    15 30.00%
  • It will raise revenue and help the economy

    27 54.00%
  • It will promote laziness

    7 14.00%
  • It is the definition of socialism

    8 16.00%
  • It will help close the gap between the middle class and rich

    20 40.00%
  • It punishes the upper tier of social darwinism

    6 12.00%
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Thread: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why is your master still at war over there?
    The president withdrew all troops from from Iraq last year, despite protests from Romney that they should be left there, Romney proposes increasing military spending and the president proposes cutting military spending.

    It is funny to see those who claim to be libertarian's back the biggest war monger however!
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The president withdrew all troops from from Iraq last year, despite protests from Romney that they should be left there, Romney proposes increasing military spending and the president proposes cutting military spending.

    It is funny to see those who claim to be libertarian's back the biggest war monger however!
    its fun to see someone who slurps obama's bathwater when he said he was going to close GITMO and stop the war as soon as he was in office.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its fun to see someone who slurps obama's bathwater when he said he was going to close GITMO and stop the war as soon as he was in office.
    He tried closing Gitmo, and never claimed he would end the war as soon as he was in office, and I was under no delusion that Obama was a liberal, just less of a war hawk that the alternative. Same situation in this election, he is less of a war hawk than the alternative.

    Why do some that call themselves libertarians, say they will vote for the biggest military spender???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    He tried closing Gitmo, and never claimed he would end the war as soon as he was in office, and I was under no delusion that Obama was a liberal, just less of a war hawk that the alternative. Same situation in this election, he is less of a war hawk than the alternative.

    Why do some that call themselves libertarians, say they will vote for the biggest military spender???


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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Heres a bit information I found interesting, that bolstered my agreement with the buffet rule.

    April 12, Washington, DC – with Tax Day approaching, a new U.S. PIRG report found the average tax filer in 2011 would have to pay $426 to make up for revenue lost from corporations and wealthy individuals shifting income to offshore tax havens. the report additionally found that if they were to cover the cost of the corporate abuse of tax havens in 2011, the average American small business would have to pay $2,116.
    “When corporations shirk their tax burden by shifting profits legitimately made in the U.S. to offshore tax havens like the Caymans, the rest of us must pick up the tab through either cuts to public spending priorities, higher taxes, or more debt,” said Dan Smith, Tax and Budget Associate for U.S. PIRG and one of the report’s co-authors. “Responsible small businesses are further hurt by corporate tax dodging because they are put at a competitive disadvantage since they can’t hire armies of well paid lawyers and accountants to use offshore tax loopholes.”

    Taxpayers would Pay 6 to Make Up for Tax Haven Abuse, Small Businesses ,116 | Planet News

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    None of the above. Raise revenue maybe a bit, but not significantly. All it does is try and ensure that if you make more, you pay a higher effective rate.
    Yeah.

    What I would really like is a progressive income tax that didn't have any exemptions at all, although maybe took dependents into account.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    He operates under the myth of zero sum gain or pure class warfare that holds that every dollar I own or is not taking from me by a malignant government is one less dollar that he will have (but what he deserves)

    if you get good grades he will argue that causes the stupid kids to get Fs. If you are a good athlete you make the lazy couch potatoes slow and unskilled
    Its not class warfare when a person running for president of the United States and makes hundreds of millions a year pays less a percentage of federal tax than a cop or firefighter or teacher...I paid personally a higher percentage of federal tax than romney.

    Its not about envy or jealousy or raising more revenue, I agree raising taxs on the wealthy wont make a difference in our debt...its purely a matter of fairness with me. I posted a site in another post..I will repost it here as an example.


    April 12, Washington, DC – with Tax Day approaching, a new U.S. PIRG report found the average tax filer in 2011 would have to pay $426 to make up for revenue lost from corporations and wealthy individuals shifting income to offshore tax havens. the report additionally found that if they were to cover the cost of the corporate abuse of tax havens in 2011, the average American small business would have to pay $2,116.

    “When corporations shirk their tax burden by shifting profits legitimately made in the U.S. to offshore tax havens like the Caymans, the rest of us must pick up the tab through either cuts to public spending priorities, higher taxes, or more debt,” said Dan Smith, Tax and Budget Associate for U.S. PIRG and one of the report’s co-authors. “Responsible small businesses are further hurt by corporate tax dodging because they are put at a competitive disadvantage since they can’t hire armies of well paid lawyers and accountants to use offshore tax loopholes.”


    Taxpayers would Pay 6 to Make Up for Tax Haven Abuse, Small Businesses ,116 | Planet News

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Yeah.

    What I would really like is a progressive income tax that didn't have any exemptions at all, although maybe took dependents into account.
    exactly. that is what bi-partisan tax reform will look like. sharply lowered nominal rates combined with simplification and slightly higher effective rates.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Heres a bit information I found interesting, that bolstered my agreement with the buffet rule.
    and here's another one:

    Putting The Buffet Rule In Place Would DECREASE Federal Revenues By $793.3 Bn Over The Next Ten Years


    and that's before you add the inevitable behavior changes.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    exactly. that is what bi-partisan tax reform will look like. sharply lowered nominal rates combined with simplification and slightly higher effective rates.
    It will never happen because too many Congressmen and Senators get too much money in campaign contributions for those who lobby them for the said exemptions, credits, etc.

    I think we'd need a constitutional amendment to mandate it. Which I'm all for.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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