View Poll Results: Your opinion of the Buffet Rule

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  • It will hurt job creators

    15 30.00%
  • It will raise revenue and help the economy

    27 54.00%
  • It will promote laziness

    7 14.00%
  • It is the definition of socialism

    8 16.00%
  • It will help close the gap between the middle class and rich

    20 40.00%
  • It punishes the upper tier of social darwinism

    6 12.00%
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    So...TD, did you catch the part I had to add...with Turn Turn Turn and Where have all the flowers gone?

    Here...


    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

    Is this what you see happening....in your humble opinion?
    I don't know if we will end up with a dictatorship but the way things are going, the masses will demand more and more and one day the public teat will run dry and the suckers of the public teats will go ballistic.

    The dems win elections by promising the many that they don't have to pay for what they want-others will, the GOP is too cowardly to cut the public teat pipeline so its going to continue to get worse.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That would the far right view, the liberal view is what is best for our economy and our fellow citizens.
    the public teat is what you find best for you and your masters who keep it filled with milk. You are much like an addict who claims that the pushers are looking out for you and those who want you to kick the habit are mean evil republicans

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the public teat is what you find best for you and your masters who keep it filled with milk. You are much like an addict who claims that the pushers are looking out for you and those who want you to kick the habit are mean evil republicans
    Just more of your usual class war rhetoric against the working class, still without providing any evidence at all to back up your claims.

    No surprise there!
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't know if we will end up with a dictatorship but the way things are going, the masses will demand more and more and one day the public teat will run dry and the suckers of the public teats will go ballistic.

    The dems win elections by promising the many that they don't have to pay for what they want-others will, the GOP is too cowardly to cut the public teat pipeline so its going to continue to get worse.
    The only power the government really has...TAXING! It buys votes. But they're breaking the bank buying votes. Well, actually it is broke. What's wrong with this picture? The voters who cash in...or the politicians who are taking cash out?

    We have something seriously wrong in the system. But it'll have to crash before anybody does anything.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?



    "As a reminder, as we pointed out yesterday, the US just posted the largest ever March budget deficit in history of nearly $200 billion, which followed the single largest monthly budget deficit on record of $232 billion. Keep those numbers in mind, because they frame, in a very, very, very aggressive case, the bottom and top range of what the entire Buffett Rule would offset in terms of gained revenue. As rick explains, assuming one taxes an upper estimate of those eligible for the Buffett Rule (indicatively 225,000 people but realistically far less) an incremental $1 million, the offset would be $225 billion over the proposal's life. Which is not enough to even plug one month of US deficit. And that is what all the posturing is about."
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Just more of your usual class war rhetoric against the working class, still without providing any evidence at all to back up your claims.

    No surprise there!
    Its not class warfare to say I have no duty to pay more taxes than my proper share for those who are not smart enough or educated enough to earn enough money to pay for what they want

    Benign neglect might bother you but it does not justify your malignant parasitic attitudes towards those more talented than you are

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?



    "In terms of types of financial wealth, the top one percent of households have 38.3% of all privately held stock, 60.6% of financial securities, and 62.4% of business equity. The top 10% have 80% to 90% of stocks, bonds, trust funds, and business equity, and over 75% of non-home real estate. Since financial wealth is what counts as far as the control of income-producing assets, we can say that just 10% of the people own the United States of America."

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post


    "In terms of types of financial wealth, the top one percent of households have 38.3% of all privately held stock, 60.6% of financial securities, and 62.4% of business equity. The top 10% have 80% to 90% of stocks, bonds, trust funds, and business equity, and over 75% of non-home real estate. Since financial wealth is what counts as far as the control of income-producing assets, we can say that just 10% of the people own the United States of America."

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    how does that relevant as to you not paying for what you want?

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post


    "In terms of types of financial wealth, the top one percent of households have 38.3% of all privately held stock, 60.6% of financial securities, and 62.4% of business equity. The top 10% have 80% to 90% of stocks, bonds, trust funds, and business equity, and over 75% of non-home real estate. Since financial wealth is what counts as far as the control of income-producing assets, we can say that just 10% of the people own the United States of America."

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    Cat, the irony is...the rich can't be rich without the poor. So if the poor class continues to rise, it's bad news for the government, but not bad news for the rich.

    If everybody got an even share of all the wealth that exists in America...everybody would be doomed to poverty....eventually. Think about it.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its really not too hard to grasp that consumers are required for a consumer based economy to prosper.
    No one is disputing that, and that's not what I asked you to support with data. You claimed that lower taxes on the wealthy resulted in less money for the middle class. Do you have any data to support that claim? I won't ask you again.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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