View Poll Results: Your opinion of the Buffet Rule

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  • It will hurt job creators

    15 30.00%
  • It will raise revenue and help the economy

    27 54.00%
  • It will promote laziness

    7 14.00%
  • It is the definition of socialism

    8 16.00%
  • It will help close the gap between the middle class and rich

    20 40.00%
  • It punishes the upper tier of social darwinism

    6 12.00%
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Thread: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and the burden on everyone else is even lower than it was then too

    Let's see your facts to back up your claim that the working class tax rates have lowered as much as for the wealthy over the last half century?

    fact remains, the rich now pay a higher proportion of the federal income tax now than we did over the last 60 years
    Thats because the rich have more of the country's wealth than they have had over the last 60 years. It doesn't change the fact they are paying a lower tax rate.



    Debbie Wasserman whatever is a complete 'tard. citing her is idiotic
    I wasn't citing her, I was citing the analysis by politifact, that you have not disproved, "counselor."
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let's see your facts to back up your claim that the working class tax rates have lowered as much as for the wealthy over the last half century?



    Thats because the rich have more of the country's wealth than they have had over the last 60 years. It doesn't change the fact they are paying a lower tax rate.





    I wasn't citing her, I was citing the analysis by politifact, that you have not disproved, "counselor."
    If the rich are paying more of the income tax burden now what does that tell someone who is able to think

    47% don't pay federal income taxes now

    far less were zero FIT payers 20 years ago

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Is that good or bad? Please explain your answer.
    For someone that understands the intention of our forefathers in instituting the progressive tax and has supported it as the rule of law under both parties have through the decades, it is bad, because it has allowed too much wealth and power concentrated at the top for our consumer economy to prosper.

    Its a lesson we should have learned by the Great Depression, but apparently, Americans are low slearners.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    For someone that understands the intention of our forefathers in instituting the progressive tax and has supported it as the rule of law under both parties have through the decades, it is bad, because it has allowed too much wealth and power concentrated at the top for our consumer economy to prosper.

    Its a lesson we should have learned by the Great Depression, but apparently, Americans are low slearners.

    I love your admiration and worship of the turds who got the scourge of the progressive income tax going. Wilson for example and then FDR. I cannot think of two presidents whose long term impact on this country was more deleterious than those two asswipes

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If the rich are paying more of the income tax burden now what does that tell someone who is able to think

    47% don't pay federal income taxes now

    far less were zero FIT payers 20 years ago
    Just I thought, no facts to back up your previous wild claim. The rich are paying more taxes because they own most of the wealth. And once again, FIT make up less than half of federal taxes.

    If you wish to try to bleed the working class and seniors even more, Romney is your man!
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I love your admiration and worship of the turds who got the scourge of the progressive income tax going. Wilson for example and then FDR. I cannot think of two presidents whose long term impact on this country was more deleterious than those two asswipes
    Thanks for the fascist point of view!
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    As you know, Congress will be taking a look at the Buffet rule in the upcoming days. How do you feel about it?
    I think it's important to point out, if it hasn't been mentioned already, that Obama has raised taxes on Buffet's secretary twice already through Obamacare, and is about to raise taxes on her again by letting the Bush tax cuts expire.
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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    it has allowed too much wealth and power concentrated at the top for our consumer economy to prosper.
    That's a mathematical assertion that requires data for support.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Welp...let see who's not paying FIT



    Alright now. We see who's not paying. Can anybody offer LEGITIMATE REASONS why these various groups aren't paying.

    And if possible...leave off the snide bull**** remarks and attempt to talk about this without unless slams.

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    Re: What are your feelings on the Buffet Rule?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    That's a mathematical assertion that requires data for support.
    The assertion has been made by economists, but it is really just a matter of common sense.

    Its really not too hard to grasp that consumers are required for a consumer based economy to prosper.

    http://www.uml.edu/centers/cic/Resea...traps-6.04.pdf
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