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Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

Who will you vote for in the 2012 Presidential Election?

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RabidAlpaca said:
Or, as I explained, I'm voting for candidates who accurately represent my beliefs,...
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So let's compare Obama and Romney.

Both raised taxes.
Both are anti-gun.
Both are pro-choice.
Both created government healthcare systems.

It's obvious they both have a liberal track record.
 
johnny_rebson said:
So let's compare Obama and Romney.

Both raised taxes.
Both are anti-gun.
Both are pro-choice.
Both created government healthcare systems.

It's obvious they both have a liberal track record.
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Bah, Obama ain't that different than Bush either.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Obama said he would not have invaded Iraq.

Do you not support the war on terror?
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Of course not. It ignores the number one terrorist against our rights and liberties. Our own government.
 
Ikari said:
I've met hundreds...thousands, of people without PhDs who were completely clueless. Who is more likely to be clueless? The under educated or the over educated?
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Lawyers.... ;)
 
Ikari said:
I've met hundreds...thousands, of people without PhDs who were completely clueless. Who is more likely to be clueless? The under educated or the over educated?
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Neither. The correct answer is the apathetic.

Old joke: Guy answers knock at door. At door is some one doing a survey who asks "what is the biggest problem in this country, ignorance or apathy?", but answers "I don't know and I don't care".

 
Ikari said:
I've met hundreds...thousands, of people without PhDs who were completely clueless. Who is more likely to be clueless? The under educated or the over educated?
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I think you're being generous. It's easily on the order of millions.
 
johnny_rebson said:
So let's compare Obama and Romney.

Both raised taxes.
Both are anti-gun.
Both are pro-choice.
Both created government healthcare systems.

It's obvious they both have a liberal track record.
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Precisely why I want nothing to do with either of them. What was your point?
 
Mathematician said:
I think you're being generous. It's easily on the order of millions.
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Perchance, but I've dealt with numbers on the thousands when I taught undergraduate physics.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
That right there is a fundamental flaw in logic. I am not simply concerned with this election, I am concerned with long term effects. When I vote for who represents me best, regardless of their chances of winning, it gives that party more attention in future campaigns.
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How much 'more' attention has it given the 3rd party parties after all these years? I think your concept is failing.

Ikari said:
I was willing to listen to your arguments, but you have to have a PhD to lodge a complaint.
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This is hysterical considering what you posted later:

You're throwing his arguments out because you're making an assumption that would allow you to throw out the arguments. You just want to throw away the argument because you don't want to entertain it so you've made up complete horse **** here to make some excuse to throw away an argument. Pathetic.
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Man, pot calling the kettle black. Irony meter off the charts.

Sorry kid, you're not in my league.
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I am glad you have a high opinion of yourself. That makes at least one.

I think perchance you are just insecure and lashing out against those whom have proven their intellectual worth.
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That you do not recognize your own ***hattness is not my issue.
 
Arbo said:
This is hysterical considering what you posted later:


Man, pot calling the kettle black. Irony meter off the charts.
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Well at least you're admitting that you were making **** up to throw out an argument only because you didn't want to consider the argument in the first place. Win.

Arbo said:
I am glad you have a high opinion of yourself. That makes at least one.
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The most important one, myself. But having a high opinion of one's self is hardly a bad thing.

Arbo said:
That you do not recognize your own ***hattness is not my issue.
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This is another wrong assumption and has nothing to do with the point. Nice deflect. Perchance I understand well my own "asshattness"; has nothing to do with the point that perchance you are just insecure and lashing out against those whom have proven their intellectual worth. Try to keep up kid.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Or, as I explained, I'm voting for candidates who accurately represent my beliefs, and not voting for those who don't. I'm sure Obama is your savior leading you to a liberal utopia, so you must know how I feel then?
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Obama is certainly no savior, but then I never expected a savior, nor do I believe in your libertarian utopia. Obama's policy positions simply match mine closer than the other viable candidates.

I don't share your expectation there be a candidate that perfectly matches my personal views.

Ain't going to happen, but do wait patiently for it if it makes you feel better.
 
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Ikari said:
Well at least you're admitting that you were making **** up to throw out an argument only because you didn't want to consider the argument in the first place. Win.
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Man, your ability to misunderstand is pretty high according to your above statement.

Guess that adds a bit more credence to the old saying: those that can't do, teach.

Perchance I understand well my own "asshattness"; has nothing to do with the point that perchance you are just insecure and lashing out against those whom have proven their intellectual worth. Try to keep up kid.
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If you repeat a lie often enough, you might make yourself believe it, but it does not make it truth. Another notch to the old saying mentioned above.
 
Arbo said:
Man, your ability to misunderstand is pretty high according to your above statement.

Guess that adds a bit more credence to the old saying: those that can't do, teach.
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Pot calling the kettle black, you were saying I was doing the same as you and what I was doing was making dismissive statements. That saying doesn’t mean that you are absolved of the previous contention, but rather that you are saying that I as well followed that contention. As such, it means that both of us were using dismissive statements. That’s what you were saying when you used that phrase. You weren’t saying that you didn’t make **** up to dismiss a point you didn’t want to deal with it, you merely said that I am doing the same thing. Come on man, keep up. The short bus ain’t that slow.

Arbo said:
If you repeat a lie often enough, you might make yourself believe it, but it does not make it truth. Another notch to the old saying mentioned above.
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Still dismissing. Point is, you never actually addressed anything, you just made an attack against me that’s all. Poor poor skill. Maybe you shouldn’t be allowed to vote, logical argument doesn’t seem to be a strong suite of yours.
 
Ikari said:
Pot calling the kettle black, you were saying I was doing the same as you and what I was doing was making dismissive statements.
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So now you can read the minds of others. Such a talented ***hat it's amazing.

I have an uncle just like you. He was the head of a department at a college. Uses the same fallacies you do, and never really contributed to society once he got his degree and started teaching.
 
Arbo said:
So now you can read the minds of others. Such a talented ***hat it's amazing.

I have an uncle just like you. He was the head of a department at a college. Uses the same fallacies you do, and never really contributed to society once he got his degree and started teaching.
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Delete, posted in error
 
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Marilyn Monroe said:
Not many!!! Not worth mentioning really.
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Excellent point.........Hi Marilyn its been a while....Glad to see you back again posting and fighting the good fight against liberalism..:2wave:
 
Marilyn Monroe said:
Not many!!! Not worth mentioning really.
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BS...so all of those same black voters that only voted for Barack Obama because of his skin color, voted for Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, etc...because of their skin color? Or did they vote for them for some other reason. I'll anxiously await your answer. This should be good......
 
disneydude said:
BS...so all of those same black voters that only voted for Barack Obama because of his skin color, voted for Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, etc...because of their skin color? Or did they vote for them for some other reason. I'll anxiously await your answer. This should be good......
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Not even close 91% for for Gore........89% for the traitor Kerry..........96% for Hussein..........doesn't sound like much but that is thousands of votes and probably got Hussein Obama elected........
 
disneydude said:
BS...so all of those same black voters that only voted for Barack Obama because of his skin color, voted for Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, etc...because of their skin color? Or did they vote for them for some other reason. I'll anxiously await your answer. This should be good......
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They voted for Hussein because he is black and they voted for Gore and the traitor Kerry because Democrats promise them the moon for their vote and never deliver on their promises....
 
Navy Pride said:
Not even close 91% for for Gore........89% for the traitor Kerry..........96% for Hussein..........doesn't sound like much but that is thousands of votes and probably got Hussein Obama elected........
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5%....really? Is this what you are basing your racist statements on? Wow.
 
disneydude said:
5%....really? Is this what you are basing your racist statements on? Wow.
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Are you really and attorney...If so you would know that 5 and 7 percent of millions of black votes is a lot of votes....
 
Navy Pride said:
They voted for Hussein because he is black and they voted for Gore and the traitor Kerry because Democrats promise them the moon for their vote and never deliver on their promises....
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Perhaps its because they recognize that the GOP has become a right-wing party that promotes the wealthy interests over middle and working class Americans. Perhaps its because they recognize that the GOP favors the corporation over the people....I dunno....maybe its because they recognize that a party with an agenda that seeks to turn back civil rights legislation is not a party that they want to vote for. Nah.....according to you....its none of those things....its because he is (in a whispered voice)....Black.
 
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