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Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

Who will you vote for in the 2012 Presidential Election?


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Voting for one of the 'big two' for president is not supporting the status quo. It is picking the lesser of two evils. Which must be done to minimize damage while a third party
comes up into the system, first locally, state, then into the legislature. They can not just jump in and take the white house. That's crazy talk.

So once the election results are in, I will know you voted for whoever the winner is, based on throwing away a vote.
"Picking the lesser of two evils" and "supporting the status quo" is more semantics for the same end result. The individual voter's motivation or rationalization is less important if the end result is the same regardless.

I agree that it would be better for a third-party to "work its way up", but at the same time if no one votes for third parties then they never get taken seriously, lack ballot access in many places, remain on the fringe, and so on. The "lesser evils" become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
TDid you even look at my lean?

I have been here long enough to know that what people put as their 'lean' doesn't mean **** for the most part around here.

I've answered all your questions in full and to satisfactory levels.

You JUST answered what 'party' you have worked for... only after throwing out some sort of lame attempt at an attack.

Sorry guy, you went up against someone you shouldn’t. You can’t beat me. As I said, get a little of that intellectual integrity and come back. I don’t care for childish arguments which push no philosophy or debate.

Yeah, sure that's it. Yet another big ego that things far too much of himself. Around here? Go figure. :roll:

You should really quit kidding yourself.

And if you think the 'libertarian' party stands a chance, well, I can't help but laugh.
 
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I have been here long enough to know that what people put as their 'lean' doesn't mean **** for the most part around here.

Then you've been here "long enough" to know my arguments. All self-consistent.

You JUST answered what 'party' you have worked for... only after throwing out some sort of lame attempt at an attack.

That was rather self-evident though. But at best, that's the most you got on me. Shall we move the goal posts again then?

Yeah, sure that's it. Yet another big ego that things far too much of himself. Around here? Go figure. :roll:

You should really quit kidding yourself.

And if you think the 'libertarian' party stands a chance, well, I can't help but laugh.

I think the libertarian party is the one which best represents my political platform and philosophy; as such it is the party I endorse. As for the ego thing, I have well proven that point; you may call me Doctor.
 
Then you've been here "long enough" to know my arguments. All self-consistent.

Ah yes, the big ego thinks others actually pay attention. Until this thread, I have never noticed you. But thanks for thinking so much of yourself.

That was rather self-evident though.

Yes, because so many peoples 'lean's are off base, that means yours must be solid. :roll:

As for the ego thing, I have well proven that point; you may call me Doctor.

I have no doubt you constantly believe you 'prove' things. It is a symptom of the your narcississm. And believe me, the last thing I'd ever call you is doctor.
 
Ah yes, the big ego thinks others actually pay attention. Until this thread, I have never noticed you. But thanks for thinking so much of yourself.



Yes, because so many peoples 'lean's are off base, that means yours must be solid. :roll:



I have no doubt you constantly believe you 'prove' things. It is a symptom of the your narcississm. And believe me, the last thing I'd ever call you is doctor.

Both of you egotists should stay away from pins and needles.
The point is - our nation itself needs reform.
40% of the people voting !
About 15-20 years ago, I voted third party....people should do this, the GOP and the Dems are not good at listening.
Debates end up being propaganda.
The truth exists not, or so it seems.
Debates (a joke) - nothing but opinion, and with that , there is no winning and losing.
 
It's my title. I have a PhD.

So is it your goal to prove a high level degree has nothing to do with one's intelligence, or did that just sort of happen all on it's own?
 
You do know a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Hussein Obama right?

good. the GOP deserves Obama. they are not done suffering from the harm they caused by choosing Bush to lead the nation.
 
So is it your goal to prove a high level degree has nothing to do with one's intelligence, or did that just sort of happen all on it's own?

No, it was merely demonstration as to why you should call me Doctor.
 
I'm all for DC voting rights, but this is about the Presidential election, not Congressional representation. DC residents do in fact get electoral votes when it comes time to vote for the President.

Fewer than everyone else in the country. Every state gets two more electors simply by virtue of being a state. DC should, too.
 
Fewer than everyone else in the country. Every state gets two more electors simply by virtue of being a state. DC should, too.

I think the fact that they putt a coke fiend back in office after his jail time let's me know it's good they don't have more say in things.
 
Fewer than everyone else in the country. Every state gets two more electors simply by virtue of being a state. DC should, too.

No they shouldn't. At best it should be absorbed into Maryland. But mostly, don't move to DC if you want federal representation. Commute like the rest of the assholes out here do.
 
Fewer than everyone else in the country. Every state gets two more electors simply by virtue of being a state. DC should, too.

You're just saying that because you live in DC. :roll:
 
More than memorization, we need a good IQ test. If you're not a classic academic, you can't vote. No dumb people f'n us over so much.

Is this sarcasm? Honestly! I can't tell!
 
Is this sarcasm? Honestly! I can't tell!

It's mostly sarcasm. Though sometimes after reading posts on this board, I kinda wish it were true.

How different would things look if we only allowed the intelligent and educated to vote?
 
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