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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Many services chosen unwisely will have serious consequences. But please tell me more about the president's abilities to establish laws. I was under the impression that was up to Congress.
    He has his say when he signs a law...or veto's it. But besides that we also vote for those in Congress and the Senate.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    He has his say when he signs a law...or veto's it. But besides that we also vote for those in Congress and the Senate.
    Yeppers, for whoever we think best represents our ideals and priorities. And a president's veto can be overridden by Congress.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeppers, for whoever we think best represents our ideals and priorities. And a president's veto can be overridden by Congress.
    And if neither of the candidates represent our views even 50%?

    And yes Congress can veto a presidents veto power. But I have to wonder just how often that is done.....

    I checked and apparently in our entire history there has only been 106 times that Congress has overridden a veto. Out of 1484 regular vetoes.

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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And if neither of the candidates represent our views even 50%?
    For me, there hasn't been an election where one of the candidates didn't represent more than 50% of my views.

    And yes Congress can veto a presidents veto power. But I have to wonder just how often that is done.....
    I have to wonder just how often we demand it of them?


    I checked and apparently in our entire history there has only been 106 times that Congress has overridden a veto. Out of 1484 regular vetoes.

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    And how often were representatives voted out of office because of their votes?
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    I was going to vote for the candidate who keeps trying to raise taxes on every American, whose failed energy policies resulted in lost American jobs and gas prices at $4, who laundered $500 million to one of his supporters through a failed green energy company, who stole Chrysler from their bondholders and sold the company overseas to pay off his union voters, who sold guns to Mexican drug lords in order to influence public opinion on the 2nd amendment, who is suing states for trying to help prevent illegal immigration, who voted to let doctors kill babies after they are born, who increased the debt more in three years than every other president before him combined, who has found a scape goat for every bad move he's made, and refuses to fire his incompetent, racist attorney general. But then, inexplicably, I decided I'm going to support Romney instead. I dunno, there's just a thing or two I don't like about Obama's record. Maybe someone can tell me what Obama has done right that would make me want to vote for him over Romney.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    You don't know what job Oberon has. He could be an economist. Don't assume he's some spiteful laborer who just hates the rich. There are plenty of middle-class and even upper-class people who think that the rich should have a bigger burden and who don't contribute enough to society.
    Yes there are many middle class people who assume they are smarter and more "valuable" than the rich and rather than dealing with the fact that they have inflated their own sense of worth or marketability, they blame their employers or the market for their status and then hope the government punishes those who are doing better than they are.

    PhDs who cannot hack it in the real world are perfect examples. I had several law professors who made top grades at Yale or Harvard but couldn't hack the brutal hours and politics of places like Cravath Swaine and Moore or Sullivan and Cromwell or Hughes Hubbard and Reed so after a couple years there they fled back to the ivory towers and spend the next 4 decades of their lives complaining that some guy who was a B student in the class they graduated first second or third in was now making a million a year as a senior partner at some big wall street firm while the poor "smarter and more talented" professor was only making 100K teaching at Chicago, Columbia, Cornell or Duke

    if you want someone who makes more to have a bigger burden that is worthless to me. the rich are the only group that is paying more of their share of the income tax than their share of the income

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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    For me, there hasn't been an election where one of the candidates didn't represent more than 50% of my views.
    It is certainly that way for me this election and happened with me last election.

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    I have to wonder just how often we demand it of them?
    I have no idea. I do know a lot of people demanded that Obama veto Obamacare because of the mandate...yet that didn't happen. So that might be a good question to pose also. "How often did the majority of people demand that the POTUS veto a bill and the POTUS didn't do it?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And how often were representatives voted out of office because of their votes?
    Unknowable really as a representative could be voted out simply because the "other guy" aligned more with a majority of peoples views than because of any action by the rep.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It is certainly that way for me this election and happened with me last election.
    Not for me fortunately!
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Going to depend a good bit on Romney's VP, and on how the campaign plays out.

    At this point, I'm going to be voting Romney.

    If he nominates a VP I just can't get behind, or the campaign just sours me even more on him, then I'll likely either vote 3rd party or write in John Huntsman so I can at least say I voted for who I'd want to be President.
    Was going to post pretty much the exact same thing. Huntsman's my ideal candidate, but Romney hasn't soured on me enough to get me to waste my vote. Getting there though.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Really? Really? Really? Our you joking? DOn't you know how evil Obama is?
    He's basically Bush. And without Cheney or Rove, Bush isn't that evil.
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