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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You never cease to amaze me DD..... You are a real ****ing piece of work...........
    Oh really Navy? Exactly what economic policy of Obama would you define as liberal? This should be good.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If history is any indicator then he will pick a liberal judge.

    Mitt Romney is a Liberal, Part 2: Romney appointed liberal judges (06/17/2011)
    Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans, has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters (75%) of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents – including two gay lawyers who have supported expanded same-sex rights.

    Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show. In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters, and 14 registered Democrats.
    To be fair to Romney, it's my understanding his judicial appointments had to pass a board review, with a board consisting of 8 democrats and 1 republican. Had he just stonewalled and said "I'm only doing conservatives and that's that and if you don't like it go to hell" he'd quite possibly be doing a disservice to his constituents by leaving multiple judicial locations vacant. Instead it seems he tried to get conservatives on by bending and compromising by putting forward some liberals, but trying to make the liberals more moderate if possible.

    It's not like its something I'd slap him on the back for and say "Great job!" but it's also something I can view somewhat realistically as an understandable compromise. All in all I think it speaks a bit to Romney's general operating procedure of pragmatism and doing what's best for him in regards to polls/votes, which in this case would be getting some Conservatives on so he can point to those but playing ball with others to get to that point and appease some of his more liberal voters.

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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    I would never vote for a Democrat or Republican again. I made the mistake when I voted Obama because I actually thought he would bring the troops home. Wow was I silly thinking that. I thought he was a liberal as well. LOL
    I'll vote for a Socialist even if I have to write it in.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh really Navy? Exactly what economic policy of Obama would you define as liberal? This should be good.
    Dude. Are you serious?


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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Dude. Are you serious?
    Serious as a heart attack. I LOVE how people love to call Obama a liberal...yet cannot really point to any policy of his that is "liberal". Obama's economic policies have all been focused on the middle class. He's a middle of the road centrist. There has been nothing/ZERO radical about any of Obama's policies (much to my chagrin).
    I understand that those of you on the right-wing would consider Obama's policies to be to the left of your own, but it is pretty difficult to define any of his policies as "liberal". Care to take a stab?
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    The radicals of both sides seem to be entrenched. (these are the social liberals, and the social conservatives)
    both sides sound like they are willing to burn the house down because they don't like the color
    of the paint.
    There is a clear accounting case that can be made, that we cannot continue on our current path for long.
    Our population is not growing fast enough to sustain us the way it used to.
    Our regulatory and retirement burdens have reached near toxic levels, where we cannot
    grow, because we cannot compete.
    If we cannot grow the economy, we cannot grow the population.
    Everyone seems willing to argue about paint color, when the foundation is in need of repair!

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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Serious as a heart attack. I LOVE how people love to call Obama a liberal...yet cannot really point to any policy of his that is "liberal". Obama's economic policies have all been focused on the middle class. He's a middle of the road centrist. There has been nothing/ZERO radical about any of Obama's policies (much to my chagrin).
    I understand that those of you on the right-wing would consider Obama's policies to be to the left of your own, but it is pretty difficult to define any of his policies as "liberal". Care to take a stab?
    First, what's he fought for AND what's actually gone into law? Or just what he's passed into law?

    Second, if your standard is the second then are you consistent if you use that as your means of claiming him a Centrist to also assign credit (at least in part) for those actions in their entirety to him? Or do they belong to him when it benefits him and belongs to others when it doesn't?

    Also, defining liberal as "helping the middle class" (which is not in any way an ideological explanation but rather taken an abstract opinion based statement with significantly broad application and attempting to shoe horn that into a political definition) is about as legitimate as describing Conservatism as "Promoting Freedom" as a deifnition of what consistutes Conservative. Both are extremely opinion based, broad, generic descriptors that fail as real definitions.

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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    I made a thread about this before, I will seriously bet any person here $100 that Obama wins. That if you are so sure in your blind hatred of Obama that you can't even see the facts, that or if I win you put on your sig "JohnWOlin is way more awesome than me." and in the slight chance that I were to lose the bet I would do the same for you.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Serious as a heart attack. I LOVE how people love to call Obama a liberal...yet cannot really point to any policy of his that is "liberal". Obama's economic policies have all been focused on the middle class. He's a middle of the road centrist. There has been nothing/ZERO radical about any of Obama's policies (much to my chagrin).
    I understand that those of you on the right-wing would consider Obama's policies to be to the left of your own, but it is pretty difficult to define any of his policies as "liberal". Care to take a stab?
    IMO, a truly "radical" lefty would have:

    taken a stance of universal, government-provided healthcare or nothing,

    ended the wars immediately,

    Asked for another enormous stimulus package,

    Pushed for a top tax rate somewhere along the lines of those of the Great Depression (63%+)

    Not agreed to any spending cuts not paired with increases in taxes.

    Punished the banks/wall street for causing the recession and put in place serious regulations to prevent similar practices.

    Immediately closed guantanamo and ended the Bush interrogation practices and long-term incarceration.

    Demanded contraception coverage for women, with no religious exemptions whatsoever.

    Pushed for a repeal of DOMA.

    Refused to allow additional drilling, fracking, etc.

    I am also curious to see what people would define as "radical" when it comes to what Obama has done or even pushed for.
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    Re: Who will you vote for in the 2012 presidential election...

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I made a thread about this before, I will seriously bet any person here $100 that Obama wins. That if you are so sure in your blind hatred of Obama that you can't even see the facts, that or if I win you put on your sig "JohnWOlin is way more awesome than me." and in the slight chance that I were to lose the bet I would do the same for you.
    You ought to talk to ICMA, he seems willing to bet on anything...
    Quote Originally Posted by IndepCentristMA View Post
    LMFAO @ no sale... you're so far up Obama's behind, that in order to sell you Obama would have to outright endorse Romney, then you could see it through his eyes...

    Meg Whitman is gonna be the VP candidate... Id put one of those Mitt Romney $10K bets on it...
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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