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    Re: Are these people necessary to a 21st century global economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Capitalism and its inherent mechanism's are not found in nature itself. Reality would go on perfectly well without capitalism. As such while it might be a part of our reality it is not necessarily a part of nature's reality.
    To the contrary, capitalism is quite in line with the way nature itself works. It's efficient, competitive, and it is not tolerant of what doesn't work.
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    Re: Are these people necessary to a 21st century global economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Well, if the American Mafia could have a national 'Commission' for resolving disputes, so can a lot of special interest groups. Just because Mafia families fought with each other doesn't mean the Mafia didn't exist and wasn't a conspiracy. Other International organized crime syndicates can certainly do the same thing, form little front groups to iron out conflicts and arrange cooperative deals where common ground can be reached, like labor racketeering partnerships between capitalists and Red China, for instance, or faux 'Free Trade' scams like NAFTA, etc. You may find them 'entertaining', but those of us who have seen the very real results of some of these 'conspiracies' first hand, as in piles of bodies and massive destruction, people falling dead in emergency rooms, starvation, etc., don't find them 'entertaining' at all.
    Thanx for the little strawman interlude. I am sure there are a few other things that you could imply as well if you think hard enough. Please continue it is entertaining like I said.

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    Re: Are these people necessary to a 21st century global economy?

    Whatever hand waves and dissimulations you want to spout. I'll stay with the obvious; I don't need strawmen, that's your need. All ideologies need mythology and strawmen, especially social darwinists.

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    Re: Are these people necessary to a 21st century global economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Whatever hand waves and dissimulations you want to spout. I'll stay with the obvious; I don't need strawmen, that's your need. All ideologies need mythology and strawmen, especially social darwinists.
    Ok so I was right you have no details only accusations with unfounded reasoning.

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    Re: Are these people necessary to a 21st century global economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    To the contrary, capitalism is quite in line with the way nature itself works. It's efficient, competitive, and it is not tolerant of what doesn't work.
    Only as it's practiced (kinda' sorta') in America. Left completely to it's own devices, capitalism would eventually devolve into monopolies because corporations never die a "natural" death.
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    Re: Are these people necessary to a 21st century global economy?

    The Bilderbergs are not the villain; they were smart enough to omit the Reagans, the Bushes, but not Bill Clinton.
    The villain is the one living in ignorance and fear, the conspiracy theory believer.
    That list, from a conservative yet, seems to be a who's who of decent people.
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    Re: Are these people necessary to a 21st century global economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    To the contrary, capitalism is quite in line with the way nature itself works. It's efficient, competitive, and it is not tolerant of what doesn't work.
    Assuming what you say is true then at best capitalism mimics nature. But that does not mean that it is natural. If it was then monkeys, dolphins, ants, etc etc etc would be using some sort of currency.
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    Re: Are these people necessary to a 21st century global economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Assuming what you say is true then at best capitalism mimics nature. But that does not mean that it is natural. If it was then monkeys, dolphins, ants, etc etc etc would be using some sort of currency.
    Not at all. Capitalism is an economic system in which successful businesses stay in business, as opposed to those which don't make it. It's not the money itself that makes it capitalism, it's the standard by which success and failure are rewarded or punished. In capitalism, there is demand and supply, and the supply is determined by the ability to meet the demand successfully, whether it be by competitive prices, outstanding quality, or a combination of factors. The producers are competing for a market share (think of bucks fighting for breeding rights ). It's the same principle. If a business doesn't offer a product that the public wants and is willing to pay for, the business dies. Those who offer what the public wants, succeed and live to produce more.
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