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    Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    I don't, and have always prided myself on being able to at least try and look at the overall picture, but I have to admit that my time here is stirring up all my long-suppressed anger against civil asset forfeiture that I feel like I might have one sometime soon. Of course, pretty much every politician on both sides of the aisle are responsible for, and would favor, continued use of the practice as it allows them to continue the illusion of being "tough on crime", so except for Libertarians I'm not sure where I would go. Voting Libertarian would certainly not be the end of the world. I have done it before, and expect to this November in the Presidential election, but I do wish there would an actual realistic alternative.

    If you do have a litmus test, please share it and explain your reason(s).

    If you do not have a litmus test, please explains your reason(s) for not having one. Not everybody has one overriding issue that drives them, I understand that.

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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    I have a few simple tests a candidate has to pass before I even look deeper at them.
    if they are anti-gun... they are toast.
    if they are disrespectful of the 1st amendment... they are toast.
    if they prize , or engage in, identity politics based on sex, race ,color, creed, or sexuality... they are toast.

    needless to say, those few tests weed a lot of candidates out right off the bat.

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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    If they constantly say dumb **** and make fools of themselves on TV, then I dismiss them out of hand.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If they constantly say dumb **** and make fools of themselves on TV, then I dismiss them out of hand.
    sooooo.. you're a nonvoter then huh?

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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    sooooo.. you're a nonvoter then huh?
    For the most part yeah. If I did I'd lean Obama anyway, and Maryland always goes blue so it's kinda pointless.

    But I was more referring to the likes of extreme progressives who constantly say dumb ****, or folks like Palin and Cain who for whatever reason fail to do their homework.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    I try to be a "big picture" kinda guy, but there are some stances I just consider unforgivable and I can't support a candidate who espouses them under any circumstances-- I mean, literally, if they are confirmed to be the Second Coming of the Messiah and they take one of those positions I will find a new god.

    For instance, I'm opposed to just about every gun control ordinance passed ever, but it doesn't become a "litmus test" unless we're talking about firearm registration or banning handguns. That's unforgivable.

    I am vehemently pro-choice, but I'm accustomed to politicians I trust on economic and security issues being wrong on abortion. On the other hand, there's a line between opposing the rape/incest exemption-- a principled position-- and opposing exemptions based on medical necessity.

    I'd be a single-issue voter on NASA if there were anyone left I could count on to support it.

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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    Yeah, I do. I look at the big picture, but there are certain stances that I just find so wrong that I won't support a candidate who holds them. I might support a candidate who is neutral if the rest of their platform/history is stellar. Maybe. But it has to be stellar.

    I won't vote for anti-choice candidates,. I won't vote for candidates who support censorship. I won't vote for candidates who want to dismantle SS/Medicare. I won't vote for candidates who believe this is a "Christian nation" and want to legislate accordingly - anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-diversity, etc.
    Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 04-08-12 at 07:28 PM.

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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    I cannot imagine any way I would vote for a candidate who was dedicated to funneling more money and power into the upper class. That is, I would never support a proponent of oligarchy.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I won't vote for anti-choice candidates,. I won't vote for candidates who support censorship. I won't vote for candidates who want to dismantle SS/Medicare. I won't vote for candidates who believe this is a "Christian nation" and want to legislate accordingly - anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-diversity, etc.
    Also this stuff. Religion has no place in law.
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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I cannot imagine any way I would vote for a candidate who was dedicated to funneling more money and power into the upper class. That is, I would never support a proponent of oligarchy.



    Also this stuff. Religion has no place in law.
    sooooo... you're a nonvoter too huh?

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    Re: Do you have a "litmus test" for political candidates?

    Unfortunately, for a long time it has not been about voting for someone, but voting against someone else.

    So now it is a matter of picking the one that seems like they will do less damage. Even that is pretty close most often.
    "nah i think the way cons want to turn this into a political issue is funny though" - Philly Boss

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