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Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

Should it be legalized?

  • Yes, as quickly as possible

    Votes: 12 26.7%
  • yes and regulated by the state...

    Votes: 27 60.0%
  • no way...other people paying for sex ruins my life...

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • don't you have anything better to do with your time...

    Votes: 4 8.9%

  • Total voters
    45
That's nonsense. No one in Nevada has been denied unemployment because she or he refused work as a prostitute. People recognize that sex is a very personal thing and sex for money is not something most people are comfortable doing.

If sex is so personal then why make a public business out of it? The nonsense is saying it's personal then say open for business.
 
In fact, people drank more during the prohibition then before or since, even children, which is surprising considering the fact that alcohol related deaths dropped during the prohibition despite the dangers of white lightning and moonshine.A lot fo countries which thought they were going to reap taxes from prostitutes actually had a deficit in unpaid taxes.A slave is certainly a victim. The majority of prostitutes can not leave and are abused. Most are raped semi-regularly by pimps and johns, are addicted to drugs and suffer from a variety or emotional problems to include PTSD.Which is where it belongs.
From a human rights perspective, there can never exist any such a relationship in which a man would purchase and own the body of a woman as a commodity.

Legalized prostitution greatly exacerbates underground sex-slave human trafficking. Most nations which legalized prostitution, re-banned it after experiencing this truth. The oldest records of prostitution were of slaves.

Your typical prostitute comes from an abused background, enters prostitution out of desperation and/or coercion (not free choice) and becomes trapped in a life of physical, sexual, emotional, and drug abuse. This is not the life of an independent and free adult choosing to perform a service for a fee. This is a life of being owned and abused.
no one is denying the problem with the existing system. Thats what making the act illegal does.There ARE women that engage in the sex trade that do it because they LIKE it.They make very good money at it. but absolutely...with the current laws making it criminal you are far more likely to have back alleys and victims. YOu HAVE to agree that there is a TREMENDOUS difference between the street whore being run by pimps (because it is an illegal act) and call girls/madams...right?
 
Could I get the source from where you pulled the statistics on this? If not I disagree and think it would be likely to spike greatly.
You think LEGISLATING and regulating the business through the health department would make it MORE dangerous than an unregulated street hooker??? :shock:
 
You're said you were concerned about the health care costs...are you concerned for every new business?

Really this is the straw your yanking out? I am concerned with the inadequate proposal of it. If I wanted to set up a nuclear dump site in your back yard you should be ok with it providing the argument that you bring to the table.
 
If there is no cameras in the office bedroom work place, yes.
It was already mentioned that there should be mandated testing if it were to become legal. How often does that happen today?
 
It was already mentioned that there should be mandated testing if it were to become legal. How often does that happen today?

Once again, you bring no evidence to your opinion, thus I don't need to either. HIV testing can give negative results for months, not weeks. How does this help?
 
Since the topic of legalizing marijuana came up, we should discuss another "illegal" activity...

Should prostitution be legal?

I've had a change of heart on this issue. We had a thread about this not too long ago, and I was for keeping it illegal. After thinking about all the other posts on the thread, I think I was wrong.

I think it should be legal. I'll use the same arguments others used in that other thread.

By making prostitution legal, we are more apt to be able to control those who participate in it -- to make sure there are fewer victims...those controlled by manipulating pimps would like disappear if there were Bunny Ranches...under-aged prostitutes...the spread of disease...to name some areas.

That would be a good thing.
 
Once again, you bring no evidence to your opinion, thus I don't need to either. HIV testing can give negative results for months, not weeks. How does this help?
How do you offer proof of something that hasnt yet happened? All we know for sure is that testing is NOT currently happening.
 
Really this is the straw your yanking out? I am concerned with the inadequate proposal of it. If I wanted to set up a nuclear dump site in your back yard you should be ok with it providing the argument that you bring to the table.

Are you kidding me? It was your argument! Care try again? Is there a proposal on the table we don't know about?

You are really losing it aren't you...that would harm me now wouldn't it?

Again, if I pay a woman for sex,how does that hurt YOU?
 
Are you kidding me? It was your argument! Care try again? Is there a proposal on the table we don't know about?

You are really losing it aren't you...that would harm me now wouldn't it?

Again, if I pay a woman for sex,how does that hurt YOU?

If that woman you're paying for sex is a 17-year-old runaway who is being systematically controlled into being "all that she can be in your pants" by her pimp? it hurts everyone.

That's what I would hope de-criminalizing it would stop.
 
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I've had a change of heart on this issue. We had a thread about this not too long ago, and I was for keeping it illegal. After thinking about all the other posts on the thread, I think I was wrong.

I think it should be legal. I'll use the same arguments others used in that other thread.

By making prostitution legal, we are more apt to be able to control those who participate in it -- to make sure there are fewer victims...those controlled by manipulating pimps would like disappear if there were Bunny Ranches...under-aged prostitutes...the spread of disease...to name some areas.

That would be a good thing.

I understand that you may have had a change of heart over the deal, but we are not talking about selling dildos. Prostitution has a great big history that we can pull good solid vital proof that can put people in compromised situations that could end up being unhealthy for society.

Let me pull this apart also as the justification given for the legalization.

By making justified killings legal, we are more apt to be able to control those who participate in it -- to make sure there are fewer victims...those controlled by manipulating mob bosses would like disappear if there were certified hitmen...under-aged population...the spread of disease could be controlled...to name some areas.
 
If that woman you're paying for sex is a 17-year-old runaway who is being systematically controlled into being "all that she can be in your pants" by her pimp? it hurts everyone.

That's what I would hope de-criminalizing it would stop.

I totally agree under your scenario, but under mine I was referring to two consenting adults...trying to find out how that hurts barbarian...
 
I understand that you may have had a change of heart over the deal, but we are not talking about selling dildos. Prostitution has a great big history that we can pull good solid vital proof that can put people in compromised situations that could end up being unhealthy for society.

Let me pull this apart also as the justification given for the legalization.

By making justified killings legal, we are more apt to be able to control those who participate in it -- to make sure there are fewer victims...those controlled by manipulating mob bosses would like disappear if there were certified hitmen...under-aged population...the spread of disease could be controlled...to name some areas.

We have a good solid history of the effects of de-criminalizing prostitution: the state of Nevada.
 
Are you kidding me? It was your argument! Care try again? Is there a proposal on the table we don't know about?

You are really losing it aren't you...that would harm me now wouldn't it?

Again, if I pay a woman for sex,how does that hurt YOU?

Asked and answered go back and read the damn thread.

personal attacks are not a viable working argument.
 
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There are plenty of other countries that you can look to as far as impact statements, try starting there.
We arent any of those other countries. Our system of government, laws, etc isnt at all similar. However...from Canada...

"A 2001 study done by the University of Victoria, Dispelling Myths and Understanding Realities Working Conditions, Health Status and Exiting Experiences of Sex Workers, that tested over 201 current and former sex workers from 13 cities across Canada found that only 3.5% of were HIV positive.

The Nevada State Health Department in the United States where prostitution is legal, tests the sex workers who worked there monthly and as of 1993 (the last report I could find), out of over 20,000 people tested not one test came out positive for the HIV virus."

Prostitution in Canada provided by Bravenet.com

take it for what it is worth. I am not going to spend a lot of time digging up research, but a quick google shows this. Im sure there is more info.
 
Are you kidding me? It was your argument! Care try again? Is there a proposal on the table we don't know about?

You are really losing it aren't you...that would harm me now wouldn't it?

Again, if I pay a woman for sex,how does that hurt YOU?


Once again I am totally fine with it staying illegal and for the most of the same reasons why it is illegal. You want to make it legal, so I will listen to why, I just haven't seen you bring up any good points to change my mind. Not my fault debate better.
 
As for #1 you still have the government pimping you out for their share of the profits called taxes, permits, and other government fees.

It should be treated like any other business. Just like to work in a restaurant you need a food permit so that you don't accidentally give people food poisoning.You should need something similar to be a prostitute and or to run a prostitution business so that you are not being taken advantage of, not spreading diseases and other forms of safety for both the client and the prostitute.

#2 is a good view and like they do in the grow rooms of marijuana in Colorado and install cameras in the sex office bedroom to ensure that they are staying within the law.

I think maybe a body guard or armed guard outside the bedroom might be a good idea.

As far as #3 can I get a federal waiver from them people from ever tapping into my health care insurance costs. Which leads to #4 this should never be covered by insurance companies.

I do think these expenses should be treated like any other business expenses.
 
Once again I am totally fine with it staying illegal and for the most of the same reasons why it is illegal. You want to make it legal, so I will listen to why, I just haven't seen you bring up any good points to change my mind. Not my fault debate better.

OK, I'll try one more time...how are you harmed by two consenting adults engaging in a sex for cash transaction?
 
You're should go back and read what you posted because clearly you have forgotten...maybe because it made no sense...thx for wasting my time!

No problem, it wasn't hard to do when you don't have anything to really sway a position. I have brought up many things to counter your stance, I can't help you have nothing more to offer.
 
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