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Thread: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    who was he hurting?
    Me, as I had to smell his terrible exhaust, isn't that the same thing non-smokers vs. smokers argument?
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I think we need more of a love for "Uncle Sam"....rather than a fear.
    What sayth thou, government ???
    This isn't a fear, it is about keeping the government out of my personal life.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    Me, as I had to smell is terrible exhaust, isn't that the same thing non-smokers vs. smokers argument?
    Yet there is no law against it...

    So how would two consenting adults in a hotel room exchanging sex for money hurt YOU?

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes it should be legal. But that said there should be a few things in place-

    1.Laws in place to ensure that the prostitute keeps most of her money should she work for a business such as a brothel that employs multiple prostitutes or a "independent sales man" such as a pimp.

    2.There should also be laws requiring forcing clients and prostitutes to use prophylactics and the prostitute to be on birth control if the prostitute is a female.

    3.Waivers to alleviate the client and prostitute should anyone contract any STD or get pregnant.

    4.Mandatory bi-weekly STD testing and results signed and notarized which shall be on displayed on the wall of the business and or carried by the prostitute should the prostitute be self employed and shown the client upon.

    5.Making zoning laws apply to prostitution just like they do any objectionable business.
    As for #1 you still have the government pimping you out for their share of the profits called taxes, permits, and other government fees.

    #2 is a good view and like they do in the grow rooms of marijuana in Colorado and install cameras in the sex office bedroom to ensure that they are staying within the law.

    As far as #3 can I get a federal waiver from them people from ever tapping into my health care insurance costs. Which leads to #4 this should never be covered by insurance companies.
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    As for #1 you still have the government pimping you out for their share of the profits called taxes, permits, and other government fees.

    #2 is a good view and like they do in the grow rooms of marijuana in Colorado and install cameras in the sex office bedroom to ensure that they are staying within the law.

    As far as #3 can I get a federal waiver from them people from ever tapping into my health care insurance costs. Which leads to #4 this should never be covered by insurance companies.
    Oh I disagree...they should ABSOLUTELY be required to carry liability insurance and I guarantee there are professional insurance carriers that would take this on. No different from a massage therapist, professional prostitutes should be licensed, insured, etc.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    Yet there is no law against it...

    So how would two consenting adults in a hotel room exchanging sex for money hurt YOU?


    Health care costs, they get sick I end up paying, when you start paying taxes and health insurance this becomes clearer.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh I disagree...they should ABSOLUTELY be required to carry liability insurance and I guarantee there are professional insurance carriers that would take this on. No different from a massage therapist, professional prostitutes should be licensed, insured, etc.

    Liability insurance (this doesn't affect me) and health insurance (this does affect me,) they are two different animals.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    Yet there is no law against it...

    So how would two consenting adults in a hotel room exchanging sex for money hurt YOU?

    OH, and yes there is laws against you blowing smoke out of your exhaust. Unless I misunderstood you on the no law against it.
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    That said, I don't think it should be illegal. Criminalizing has more bad than good effects. Prostitution is called "the oldest business of all" for a reason: No criminalization effort will always be successful ending it. So we should better try to minimize the damage -- providing a legal frame and controls, for that there is no involuntary prostitution, pimping or human trafficking. The ugly side effects sourrounding illegal prostitution should be dried out. There should be health controls and prostitutes should enjoy the benefits like other employees too.
    I would argue that this enlightened harm reduction model has been employed and has, to my understanding, proven unsuccessful. The Dutch have had terrible problems with sex trafficking, and our own experiments with harm reduction-- in Nevada-- have been too small scale to provide reliable data. (It's a couple of counties in Nevada with documentaries being filmed every day.) I think a better approach, along the same harm reduction model, would be to decriminalize prostitution for the prostitutes themselves but to maintain criminal penalties for the customers and the pimps-- flipping the customers to nail the pimps whenever possible.

    Good people can be and are forced into having sex for money, but nobody is forced into paying for sex and nobody is forced to traffick girls. These are not good people and I have no moral objections to hurting them in order to send the message that what they are doing is not acceptable in a civilized society.

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    As long as there is demand, there will be supply, so we better do our best to regulate and control this business instead of leaving it to criminals, including all aforementioned horrible side effects.
    I don't see criminalizing an industry as "leaving it to criminals" when you are actively enforcing the laws against it. Some things are wrong and must be abolished, even if it is not possible to eradicate them entirely-- after all, we abolished slavery in this country a century and a half ago and what profound moral wrong are we arguing about in this very thread?

    But there's sure as Hell a lot less slavery going on in this country now than there was 150 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    I don't see a contradiction to this approach on one side, and campaigns to morally prescribe prostitution. We can do both, legalize the business, but decreasing demand at the same time.
    I agree that we can do both, but I disagree that a public health and morality campaign is sufficient discouragement for a practice so morally abhorrent-- and for which there is such overwhelming biological encouragement.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    Liability insurance (this doesn't affect me) and health insurance (this does affect me,) they are two different animals.
    I agree with that. However it SHOULD be noted that today, your average crack ho is having an impact on health care costs.

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