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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Absolutely not. The commercialization and commoditization of sex is inherently degrading and dehumanizing and our society is already rife with the problems that come from viewing our families and communities as disposable conveniences.
    I agree with you that prostitution is bad for society, it causes severe damage to families and it's degrading. And it is bad from a health standpoint too. There should be education campaigns, both on the moral problems and health risks.

    That said, I don't think it should be illegal. Criminalizing has more bad than good effects. Prostitution is called "the oldest business of all" for a reason: No criminalization effort will always be successful ending it. So we should better try to minimize the damage -- providing a legal frame and controls, for that there is no involuntary prostitution, pimping or human trafficking. The ugly side effects sourrounding illegal prostitution should be dried out. There should be health controls and prostitutes should enjoy the benefits like other employees too.

    As long as there is demand, there will be supply, so we better do our best to regulate and control this business instead of leaving it to criminals, including all aforementioned horrible side effects.

    I don't see a contradiction to this approach on one side, and campaigns to morally prescribe prostitution. We can do both, legalize the business, but decreasing demand at the same time.
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Regulation has never worked, there is typically an owner/pimp, and the prostitute rarely has a choice regardless.

    But it is working in Nevada and Amsterdam, I guess that doesn't really count, huh?

    Your last comment is just a bit silly, sorry...

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Regulation has never worked, there is typically an owner/pimp, and the prostitute rarely has a choice regardless.
    This is more a matter of governments not going far enough. In jurisdictions where it is legal the coercive pimp is no longer necessary. Yes, prostitutes will typically still have a manager, but it is far easier to combat coercive and abusive practices when the market is out in the open. Where we continue to see problems are in areas where the trade is only decriminalized. In this environment, law enforcement may turn a blind eye to the trade, but the basic structure of the black market remains.
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Here is a basic undeniable and time proven reality. Sex sells. Sex is a valued commodity. Some people may have limited skill sets and qualifications but may be uniquely gifted and talented to be able to provide that service. People sell their services all the time. Legalized prostitution would involve person X willingly offering a service (that lets be honest...some people LOVE to offer and are very good at it) to person Y who values it and is willing to pay for it. People pay for massages, they pay for counseling, they pay for tattoos. We have smoke shops, state run liquor stores, and in some parts of the country marijuana stores. It is ridiculous that Miss Sally cant request a business license, open an establishment, pass the required building and health inspections, and bill customers for a desired service. Everyone...EVERYONE wins. The public health is more secure because while you may still have the occasional 5 dolla independent snaggle toothed crack ho, you will certainly have less of them. And hey...Diannas Discount Dildo Dojo could offer unique business start-up positions, business management experience, you could have minimum wage and higher type positions, there is just a whole lot of 'win' in legalizing the trade.
    Legalization of prostitution instantly creates a level of demand that wasn't there before. There is never anywhere near enough workers to satisfy the new level of demand. This is when organised crime takes over and begins importing kidnapped women and children from other countries, held persona non grata (no legal standing in the host country, as the pimp retains their passport and does not report them to any agency) indefinintly.
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Regulation has never worked, there is typically an owner/pimp, and the prostitute rarely has a choice regardless.
    I know several rather high end hookers in Vegas who would disagree with you. some were paying their way through college and most if not all LOVED their job. And you know its true...when you love your job you are better at it. Part of the problem with prostitution today is that it is seen as ugly, nasty, and the women are seen as less than. Because it is illegal they have little recourse...if they are mistreated they cant just go run to the police. If you legalize the trade you can regulate health concerns, tax the income, hell, they could unionize. Would their likely be a business owner? of COURSE...but how would that be any different than any other business?

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Illegality and logic. If you can make something illegal that you know almost everyone participates in, then you can generate large amounts of revenue. So that is one reason that maintains the illegality, it's profitable. Two, two hundred pound Mrs. Brown doesn't like to have to compete against the lithesome Dianna, of the Discount Dildo Dojo, and a two handed, full mouthed adventure program. Caspy Milketoast of the limpdicked closet people doesn't like to compete against "Beer Can" Charlie and his stiff joint. If marriage is a sort of legal whoredom, and when you experience divorce court, you begin to have an understanding of this in detail, then competitive prostitution seems like a terrific alternative. Don't you think. It's like churches. If you want to boost collections, give your parishoners a heavy dose of guilt. Everyone has sex, so use sex to generate guilt and reap the payoff by having to do collections with wastebaskets due to increased volume.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Legalization or prostitution instantly creates a level of demand that wasn't there before. There is never anywhere near enough workers to satisfy the new level of demand. This is when organised crimes takes over and begins importing kidnapped women and children from other countries, held persona non grata [size=1(no legal standing in the host country, as the pimp retains their passport and does not report them to any agency)[/size] indefinintly.
    I see where you can make that comparison in other countries but I dont think it applies or would apply HERE, at least not to any greater extent than it may already be happening today. Undeniably...it IS happening today. So...make the businesses legit, require regular health inspections, you would have workers rights groups, there really is no downside to legalizing it. We are stuck on traditions and morality plays that really dont make a lot of sense.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    But it is working in Nevada and Amsterdam, I guess that doesn't really count, huh?

    Your last comment is just a bit silly, sorry...
    If you honestly think your best argument for Nevada and Amsterdam can hold a candle to Sweden and Norway, be my guest and present your case. I'll be checking your sources so make sure your links work.

    Better yet, take it to The Loft.
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    But it is working in Nevada and Amsterdam, I guess that doesn't really count, huh?

    Your last comment is just a bit silly, sorry...
    So, how well did you say it was working?

    Here is another example of something working;

    I was stopped at a red light the other day and some young guy pulled up next to me in an old corvette(75'-77') the body was in rough shape, black smoke coming from the tail pipe and you could hear the rods knocking like an old diesel. Looking over the young guy had a look on his face of pleasure that he was driving a corvette, even though mechanically it had major problems.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal and not just for medical reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I see where you can make that comparison in other countries but I dont think it applies or would apply HERE, at least not to any greater extent than it may already be happening today. Undeniably...it IS happening today. So...make the businesses legit, require regular health inspections, you would have workers rights groups, there really is no downside to legalizing it. We are stuck on traditions and morality plays that really dont make a lot of sense.
    Do you make the same argument for cocaine?

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