View Poll Results: What are you devoted to?

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  • Money

    5 20.83%
  • Career

    5 20.83%
  • Family

    11 45.83%
  • Political ideology / party / programme

    8 33.33%
  • Religion

    6 25.00%
  • Science

    13 54.17%
  • Nothing specific

    3 12.50%
  • Art

    4 16.67%
  • Surviving

    5 20.83%
  • Other (please explain)

    6 25.00%
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    Re: Your ideals

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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Your ideals

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    All of the above. If I were to pick a single overarching ideal, though, it would be cultivation-- the improvement of our species and our civilization in qualities we find desirable.
    Maybe i'm just short-sighted, but I think most people should focus on cultivation as an individual first and foremost.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Your ideals

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Maybe i'm just short-sighted, but I think most people should focus on cultivation as an individual first and foremost.
    Of course. I can't do much of anything for the rest of the species while I'm such a mess.

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    I strive to better society as a whole. Since I was a child, I have wanted two things: to be a marine and to become a great political leader. I am not stuck to one party as that slows down improvement. I care nothing of money or class. I just want to die knowing that I have changed the world for the better.

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    Science, technology, and international development.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
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    Re: Your ideals

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    love........mostly..
    That's cool.

    Even more so since it wasn't an option, and you said that anyway.

    A refreshing purity.

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    Re: Your ideals

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
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    That's a good one.
    I guess I couldn't pack everything in a 10 lines poll.

    With all the materialism, consumerism and fascism that are spreading around the world right now, it's refreshing to see stuff like that.

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    Re: Your ideals

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Maybe i'm just short-sighted, but I think most people should focus on cultivation as an individual first and foremost.


    To some degree yes.... but if you wait until you near perfection to do for others, you'll never get around to it.


    Most of us dare not dream to change the world in any noticeable fashion... but if you do what you can for people you encounter, you are doing all most of us can do. Changing even one life for the better is a star in your life's crown.

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