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Are all black men brainwashed? (Read Warning: post #540)

Are all black men brainwashed?

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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

SheWolf said:
A lare majority of Americans eat red meat once a day... must be brainwashing
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It is.....

The brainwashing in that regard started decades ago.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Hatuey said:
I read nonpareil's comment. It felt like a repetition of what he'd said. :) Now - do you believe the statement "all women are stupid" is sexist? Using your logic I could claim that it isn't because I've never really experienced sexism.
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Actually, that's not exactly true, and we both know it. But forget it.

As to your question, I think it would be a stupid statement. I have retracted what I wrote at least a half-dozen times here. Why don't you just pull out your Howitzer and shoot me? Or should I fall on my sword?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

nonpareil said:
You have suggested that blacks are brainwashed, that women and low-income people "drink kool aid" because they don't vote Republican to the extend that you think is right, and have claimed that those who take welfare are enslaved, and you think it's strange when people point out the offensiveness in your posts? Even with all that, I did not call you a racist as I have other posters. If you got nothing else from this thread, get this: racists never think they are racists.
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I missed where she said women and low income people drink kool-aide, but I haven't read the entire thread. I am also not sure how anybody can equate slavery with welfare.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
What you also fail to mention is that I later explained that I wasn't sure, but that I thought the edit feature had expired. Now, I could have completely negated your argument by saying the edit feature was closed rather than I think it was closed. But I'm not going to lie. I'm not sure. My words were ill-chosen. I have admitted that. Another poster also said that "conditioned" was a better word than brainwashed. I have embraced that as well.

If you were a guy, I'd be flattered by all this attention. But, as it is? Notsomuch.
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Who has conditioned/brainwashed them?

I don't really think you're racist, but I don't think your comment makes much sense. I guess I find hard to understand why some people can't accept the way other people feel, and that those feelings are a valid to them as yours are to you. :shrug:
 
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SheWolf said:
Who has conditioned/brainwashed them?

I don't really think you're racist, but I don't think your comment makes much sense. I guess I find hard to understand why some people can't accept the way other people feel, and that those feelings are a valid to them as yours are to you. :shrug:
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SheWolf, respectfully? Of couse it doesn't make much sense. It has been lifted completely out of context by the OP. If you want to know in what context I posted those comments, please go back and read the original thread TPD lifted it from and read in and around my post. Whatever I post here is going to be used to club me over the head; so I'm no longer interested in discussing my opinion on this matter in this thread. Maybe some other time.

And the next time you post a word wrong as you type off the top of your head, remember...someone at DP may choose that post, pull it out of context, and set you up to be beaten over the head with it by the rest of our members. Be very careful. ;) ;)
 
If 90% of black people voting for the Democratic Party makes them brainwashed, then the GLBT community is also brainwashed and women.

The majority of Evangelic Christians vote for the GOP... they must be brainwashed, along with gun enthusiasts, pro lifers, and other value issue voters.
 
SheWolf said:
If 90% of black people voting for the Democratic Party makes them brainwashed, then the GLBT community is also brainwashed and women.

The majority of Evangelic Christians vote for the GOP... they must be brainwashed, along with gun enthusiasts, pro lifers, and other value issue voters.
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I would say yes to all those groups you mentioned except the GLBT community.

Democratic politicians are by far the more predominate group of politicians who have been in support of equal rights for that group.
In that case, its just common sense support.

My views on affirmative action style "support" when it comes to the black community may differ from yours, but I think the government is trying to lend a crutch to black communities while leaving their leg broken rather than suggesting a cast (if you get my metaphor), all to gain their support in elections and nothing more.

A close 2nd to the GLBT community would be the Gun Rights folks. Democrats have predominately been the group associated with gun control laws, making Gun Rights folks rightfully mistrust them.

The pro-life and value issue voter/evangelicals are being fed crumbs from a cake they will never get to taste by those particular republicans who feel the need to earn their vote. We should all know by now that nothing is going to be done about abortion, why do something about it when it can CONTINUE to be an issue to divide voters over? Same scenario for the other two groups in this phrase.
 
SheWolf said:
If 90% of black people voting for the Democratic Party makes them brainwashed, then the GLBT community is also brainwashed and women.

The majority of Evangelic Christians vote for the GOP... they must be brainwashed, along with gun enthusiasts, pro lifers, and other value issue voters.
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The thing is, most people who claim someone is brainwashed do so only for the people they disagree with. This goes for conservatives, liberals, Christians, atheists, etc.. It's rarely a logical statement. The fact is that most people have beliefs and positions that match their experiences. If a certain group votes together in a particularly manner, it's usually evidence that they've had shared experiences that lead them to a particular conclusion about politics.

However, rather than seeing it in this rather understandable and logical manner, some people choose to argue instead that those whom they disagree with are brainwashed. Usually, I think those people only evaluate the world from their own experiences and don't take the fact that other people have different experiences seriously. One example of this is how some anti-gay rights people accuse pro-gay rights people of brainwashing their children to think that homosexuality is okay. Such claims are just ways to easily dismiss opinions that you disagree with without having to actually admit that different opinions may have some validity. It's the same with saying all/many/most (who gives a ****, it's the same premise) blacks are brainwashed.
 
Caine said:
I would say yes to all those groups you mentioned except the GLBT community.

Democratic politicians are by far the more predominate group of politicians who have been in support of equal rights for that group.
In that case, its just common sense support.

My views on affirmative action style "support" when it comes to the black community may differ from yours, but I think the government is trying to lend a crutch to black communities while leaving their leg broken rather than suggesting a cast (if you get my metaphor), all to gain their support in elections and nothing more.

A close 2nd to the GLBT community would be the Gun Rights folks. Democrats have predominately been the group associated with gun control laws, making Gun Rights folks rightfully mistrust them.

The pro-life and value issue voter/evangelicals are being fed crumbs from a cake they will never get to taste by those particular republicans who feel the need to earn their vote. We should all know by now that nothing is going to be done about abortion, why do something about it when it can CONTINUE to be an issue to divide voters over? Same scenario for the other two groups in this phrase.
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You make very valid points.

Speaking directly to the issue of abortion, some folks may not believe it it on moral or religious grounds, but one way to slow its effectiveness is to offer wider use of birth control especially to those segments of the population that have a tendency to use abortion as a method of birth control. The wider the availability of contraceptive is made to the general public where same has a choice it their varied uses coupled with proper sex education, the less likely people will act irresponsibly where sex, unwanted pregnancies/young mothers are concerned. But I digress...

Let's NOT turn this thread into another anti-abortion debate. We already have hundreds of those on this board. I'd highly reconnend you find one if you wish to continue this topic. (Sorry mods...not trying to steal your administrative thunder; just trying to keep the thread from being derailed once again by side-topics.)
 
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Objective Voice said:
You make very valid points.

Speaking directly to the issue of abortion, some folks may not believe it it on moral or religious grounds, but one way to slow its effectiveness is to offer wider use of birth control especially to those segments of the population that have a tendency to use abortion as a method of birth control. The wider the availability of contraceptive is made to the general public where same has a choice it their varied uses coupled with proper sex education, the less likely people will act irresponsibly where sex, unwanted pregnancies/young mothers are concerned. But I digress...

Let's NOT turn this thread into another anti-abortion debate. We already have hundreds of those on this board. I'd highly reconnend you find one if you wish to continue this topic. (Sorry mods...not trying to steal your administrative thunder; just trying to keep the thread from being derailed once again by side-topics.)
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My post was more to point out the list of brainwashed "groups", not to be a debate on issues like abortion, which I avoid like the plague.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
This came from this quote in another thread:



I've seen this argument repeated by many posters in many other threads for the year I've been here and I want to know if this is a common assessment of black men - that they are brainwashed and consequently, do not have or are incapable of having their own thoughts. So, do you agree? Moreover, if you answer "yes", do you believe that black men are more "brainwashed" than any other race? And if so, why do you think that black men think less for themselves than other races?
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MaggieD said:
I've already told you that I was going to go back edit it to "many black men." But you don't want to hear that. You want to call me out in a post.

My vote is "No," by the way.
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Some black men are brainwashed. Some are brainwashed into race-baiting, and use race as an excuse for whatever slight they experience in life.
 
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Wake said:
Some black men are brainwashed. Some are brainwashed into race-baiting, and use race as an excuse for whatever slight they experience in life.
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And some white men are brainwashed. Some are brainwashed into being racists, and use race for an excuse for whatever failures they experience in life. So what? The same can be said for any group, any. This does not make the comment any less acceptable.
 
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Blackdog said:
And some white men are brainwashed. Some are brainwashed into being racists, and use race for an excuse for whatever failures they experience in life. So what? The same can be said for any group, any. This does not make the comment any less acceptable.
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Which comment do you think I'm referring to?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Wake said:
Which comment do you think I'm referring to?
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No idea, lol. I assumed the op? Or at least I was talking about the OP more than your comment.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Wake said:
Some black men are brainwashed. Some are brainwashed into race-baiting, and use race as an excuse for whatever slight they experience in life.
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Blackdog said:
And some white men are brainwashed. Some are brainwashed into being racists, and use race for an excuse for whatever failures they experience in life. So what? The same can be said for any group, any. This does not make the comment any less acceptable.
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You are both equally correct.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Blackdog said:
No idea, lol. I assumed the op? Or at least I was talking about the OP more than your comment.
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And what do you think my response to the OP was, BD?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Wake said:
And what do you think my response to the OP was, BD?
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Exactly the same point you made just using whites. Why did you think I was attack you? I was just reinforcing the point with a different example and your words.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Blackdog said:
Exactly the same point you made just using whites. Why did you think I was attack you? I was just reinforcing the point with a different example and your words.
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If you know me, you know I use qualifiers on every statement I make. You don't need to chime in, correcting me as though I haven't the capacity to include some whites et al, either; you can assume I meant your statement as well.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Wake said:
If you know me, you know I use qualifiers on every statement I make. You don't need to chime in, correcting me as though I haven't the capacity to include some whites et al, either; you can assume I meant your statement as well.
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#1 I was not correcting you.
#2 I don't care what you use I was just reiterating your point from a different perspective.
#3 In all honesty I don't know you from Adam.

Lighten up man.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Blackdog said:
#1 I was not correcting you.
#2 I don't care what you use I was just reiterating your point from a different perspective.
#3 In all honesty I don't know you from Adam.

Lighten up man.
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Your different perspective is always incorporated into my belief system.

If you would like to chime in, don't stop at just white folk, but also Hispanics, the mentally handicapped, the illiterate, and so forth. That way you can show me every single kind of person I must have forgotten to take into consideration.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Wake said:
Your different perspective is always incorporated into my belief system.

If you would like to chime in, don't stop at just white folk, but also Hispanics, the mentally handicapped, the illiterate, and so forth. That way you can show me every single kind of person I must have forgotten to take into consideration.
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Man you have some serious perception issues. I was not correcting you, end of story.

It has nothing to do with "your belief system."
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Blackdog said:
Man you have some serious perception issues. I was not correcting you, end of story.

It has nothing to do with "your belief system."
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If you weren't correcting me, then why would you add additional data to support my original statement? Perhaps you thought I forgot that some other people can be/are brainwashed?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Wake said:
If you weren't correcting me, then why would you add additional data to support my original statement? Perhaps you thought I forgot that some other people can be brainwashed?
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Oh my God, dude the thread is not about you, my comment was not about you. Move on, Jesus.
 
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