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Are all black men brainwashed? (Read Warning: post #540)

Are all black men brainwashed?

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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
I am not a racist, Nonpareil. TPD posted this thread to put a target on my back. To subject me to ridicule and sanction. I can't even remember the thread to go back and pull my comments in context and, frankly, I don't care to. So every once in a while I stop in this one and defend myself from the consequences of a poster whose mission appears to be a little gnat on my ass.

If posters on this board think I'm a racist, so be it. Ya'll want to make me the subject of a bashing thread? Ya'll want to club me over the head for my opinions? Take my comments out of context? Pile on? Okay. Have fun.
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It is amazing a call out thread like this lasted 14 pages.... I thought your choice of words was quite poor, however, I understood what you were trying to say, and do not think you are a racist. But in this day with the far left running around like chicken littles calling everyone not on thier knees worshiping Obama, "racists", it is not surprising that the usual suspects are on this, as they are. mouth foaming non stop, calling anyone with divergent views. "racist", hypocritically though, mention what Obama has said about white people, and they take the opposite stance...

A pathetic lot.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
This came from this quote in another thread:

I've seen this argument repeated by many posters in many other threads for the year I've been here and I want to know if this is a common assessment of black men - that they are brainwashed and consequently, do not have or are incapable of having their own thoughts. So, do you agree? Moreover, if you answer "yes", do you believe that black men are more "brainwashed" than any other race? And if so, why do you think that black men think less for themselves than other races?
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MaggieD said:
I've already told you that I was going to go back edit it to "many black men." But you don't want to hear that. You want to call me out in a post.

My vote is "No," by the way.
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TPD, if you knew Maggie messed up and wanted to edit her post to change it, why would you choose to call her out like this? That's pretty lame.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Josie said:
TPD, if you knew Maggie messed up and wanted to edit her post to change it, why would you choose to call her out like this? That's pretty lame.
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I already explained it in post #10 which you obviously didn't read before making this post:

ThePlayDrive said:
I actually went back to the thread to get the quote where you said that, but you said, "I almost went back" not "I was going to go back", so I assumed that meant you thought the quote was fine which is why you "almost" instead of "actually" went back, so I just kept it like it is since "almost" going back wouldn't change your initial comment. I also don't see much a difference between "all" and "many" to be honest.
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Again, MaggieD didn't tell me she "messed up" and wanted to edit her post. She told me that she "almost" went back. When somebody "almost" goes back and doesn't "actually" go back, they don't want to change anything. Thank you for your time. Please read before making lame accusations out of ignorance.

In fact, here's the quote:

MaggieD said:
Yeah, I almost went back in to change that to "many."
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Can you or her please show me where she told me she "messed up" and that she "wanted to edit her post"? Because all I see is someone who said they almost went back, but didn't showing that they were fine enough with their original words to not even revisit the post.

Have any comments on the actual thread or are you just here to not read past the second post?
 
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
I already explained it in post #10 which you obviously didn't read before making this post:



Again, MaggieD didn't tell me she "messed up" and wanted to edit her post. She told me that she "almost" went back. When somebody "almost" goes back and doesn't "actually" go back, they don't want to change anything. Thank you for your time. Please read before making lame accusations out of ignorance.

In fact, here's the quote:



Can you or her please show me where she told me she "messed up" and that she "wanted to edit her post"? Because all I see is someone who said they almost went back, but didn't showing that they were fine enough with their original words to not even revisit the post.

Have any comments on the actual thread or are you just here to not read past the second post?
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Actually:

MaggieD said:
I've already told you that I was going to go back edit it to "many black men." But you don't want to hear that. You want to call me out in a post.

My vote is "No," by the way.
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so, she votes, no, and she tells you she wanted to go back and edit the post, yet 14 pages later, you want to lie in order to infer she is a racist? You cheapen the real issue of racism with this circus of a thread.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
I already explained it in post #10 which you obviously didn't read before making this post:

Again, MaggieD didn't tell me she "messed up" and wanted to edit her post. She told me that she "almost" went back. When somebody "almost" goes back and doesn't "actually" go back, they don't want to change anything. Thank you for your time. Please read before making lame accusations out of ignorance.

Have any comments on the actual thread or are you just here to not read past the second post?
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What you also fail to mention is that I later explained that I wasn't sure, but that I thought the edit feature had expired. Now, I could have completely negated your argument by saying the edit feature was closed rather than I think it was closed. But I'm not going to lie. I'm not sure. My words were ill-chosen. I have admitted that. Another poster also said that "conditioned" was a better word than brainwashed. I have embraced that as well.

If you were a guy, I'd be flattered by all this attention. But, as it is? Notsomuch.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ReverendHellh0und said:
Actually:

so, she votes, no, and she tells you she wanted to go back and edit the post, yet 14 pages later, you want to lie in order to infer she is a racist? You cheapen the real issue of racism with this circus of a thread.
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No.

This quote:
MaggieD said:
Yeah, I almost went back in to change that to "many."
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is from the original thread. The post you quoted is from this thread. In other words, MaggieD did not tell me that she "messed up" or "wanted to edit" anything. She told me she "almost" went back which makes the quote you posted irrelevant.
 
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
What you also fail to mention is that I later explained that I wasn't sure, but that I thought the edit feature had expired.
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Were the hell did you say that?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
No.

This quote:


is from the original thread. The post you quoted is from this thread. In other words, MaggieD did not tell me that she "messed up" or "wanted to edit" anything. She told me she "almost" went back which makes the quote you posted irrelevant.
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Who the hell are you to think you deserved to be told anything. MaggieD is not a racist, and your obnoxious thread was a call out thread, with the person you called out, stating flatly that she was wrong to use that term and that she is not a racist.

What else do you want from her? I find your thread in poor taste. Cheapening the real issue of racism, to "get" another poster.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
No.

This quote:

is from the original thread. The post you quoted is from this thread. In other words, MaggieD did not tell me that she "messed up" or "wanted to edit" anything.
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In both threads I retracted the word "all" to "many." In this one, I've repeatedly said that "conditioned" is a better word than "brainwashed."
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
In both threads I retracted the word "all" to "many." In this one, I've repeatedly said that "conditioned" is a better word than "brainwashed."
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You did not "retract" anything in the original thread which is where you claimed in the second post of this thread you told me you "messed up". Saying, "I almost went back", which is the only post in the original I saw you say anything about it, is not a retraction.

It also doesn't matter what you said in this thread past the second post because it's validity of the 2nd post that we're talking about and in your second post you claimed that you told me something that you didn't (or at least that I didn't see) in the original thread. Again, "almost" is not a retraction, no matter how you swing it.

To be honest, it doesn't really matter what you said. I think this post sums everything up quite well:

nonpareil said:
You have suggested that blacks are brainwashed, that women and low-income people "drink kool aid" because they don't vote Republican to the extend that you think is right, and have claimed that those who take welfare are enslaved, and you think it's strange when people point out the offensiveness in your posts? Even with all that, I did not call you a racist as I have other posters. If you got nothing else from this thread, get this: racists never think they are racists.
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
It also doesn't matter what you said in this thread past the second post because it's validity of the 2nd post that we're talking about and in your second post you claimed that you told me something that you didn't (or at least that I didn't see) in the original thread. Again, "almost" is not a retraction, no matter how you swing it.
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You are wrong. And this post just looks silly.

Your "Gotcha Game" is wearing thin.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
You did not "retract" anything in the original thread which is where you claimed in the second post of this thread you told me you "messed up". Saying, "I almost went back", which is the only post in the original I saw you say anything about it, is not a retraction.

It also doesn't matter what you said in this thread past the second post because it's validity of the 2nd post that we're talking about and in your second post you claimed that you told me something that you didn't (or at least that I didn't see) in the original thread. Again, "almost" is not a retraction, no matter how you swing it.

To be honest, it doesn't really matter what you said. I think this post sums everything up quite well:
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So was this thread designed to discuss brainwashing or for you to attack maggieD? Either way, your motives and honesty are suspect.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
You are wrong.
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Okay. This is your second post in this thread after I quoted you.

MaggieD said:
I've already told you that I was going to go back edit it to "many black men."
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Now you're saying:

MaggieD said:
In both threads I retracted the word "all" to "many."
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This is the quote from the old thread that I saw:
MaggieD said:
Yeah, I almost went back in to change that to "many."
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Please show me in the second quote where you told me that were "going to back and edit it". Please show me where you "retracted" the word "all". This should be easy if it's there.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

This is where you and I went off the rails:

Originally Posted by theplaydrive
This is a prime example of the type of poster I don't want to be. Unfortunately, I can definitely see some themes in my own posts from stuff you've posted in this one. I regret that now and yet I will not accept the image that you've painted of me in this post. It's ridiculous and based in a perversion of my arguments.
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MaggieD said:
TPD, some of my most contentious meets on DP have ended with finding a new friend. Honest! We may not agree, but we agree to disagree and respect each other. What more can we ask from a public website where strangers collide? Did it happen right away? Nope, it didn't. But nonetheless, as we met on other threads about other subjects, we developed that strange friendship that happens only on public forums. I just know that's going to happen with us. And I look forward to it.

I'm thanking your post, and I look forward to finding common ground on other issues. I really think we will.

Edit: I just noticed that you edited your post. If you for one MOMENT thought I was talking down to you as if you were an idiot, I apologize that my posts somehow reflected that. You're a smart lady. Very smart, imo.
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You have never gotten over the trouncing you took in this thread. I've had a target on my back from that day to this.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/education/94124-teacher-tenure-19.html#post1059362766
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Alright folks, I suggest everyone listen up because this thing is on the cusp.

While the OP referenced a posters words, it did it in such a way to jump off into a larger political question in general and not directed at the individual or talking about the individual. Nothing wrong with that, it's been done numerous times on this forum.

However, the past page or so HAS basically been focused on a singular individual, their singular statement on the issue, and arguing about that individual. That's not the purpose of the upstairs and every one of you (whose engaging in doing it on one side, and whose continuing the derail by engaging them back on the other) know it.

So here's the deal.

Either get this thread back onto the generalized topic regarding Black Men in America whether they are manipulated into substantial group think or not, or it's going away. If it continues to focus on an individual and it's caused to be flushed and/or closed then those, each and every one, causing it will get action taken against them prior to that closure.

Now, finally, due to the contentious nature of the past few pages and how much on the edge this thread is, let me be clear about something that's typically borderline with regards to the rules. Going forward in this thread, while you are absolutely free to attack an individuals arguments, accusations of a person being racist, or focusing posts too much on the person themselves (even in relation to their argument), is going to get you a quick exit out of the thread.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
This is where you and I went off the rails:

You have never gotten over the trouncing you took in this thread. I've had a target on my back from that day to this.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/education/94124-teacher-tenure-19.html#post1059362766
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Did you seriously just pull up a thread from over a year ago that I honestly didn't even remember? Dude, I've had many contentious "debates" with people on here where it's probably gotten more personal or as personal as our conflicts.

But anyway, it's clear that you think I deceptively distorted your post in the OP. It's also clear that I think you're backtracking. Neither one of us is going to change our minds and I'm starting to feel like a child for carrying on with this pissing contest. The fact is, you made a post that as I said, MANY other people have made and I made a thread. The thread actually became a discussion of the idea you expressed among others. Now, it's back to a pissing contest. I'm over it....

...and I still can't believe you pulled up a thread from over a year ago. LOL.
 
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Zyphlin said:
Moderator's Warning:
Alright folks, I suggest everyone listen up because this thing is on the cusp.

While the OP referenced a posters words, it did it in such a way to jump off into a larger political question in general and not directed at the individual or talking about the individual. Nothing wrong with that, it's been done numerous times on this forum.

However, the past page or so HAS basically been focused on a singular individual, their singular statement on the issue, and arguing about that individual. That's not the purpose of the upstairs and every one of you (whose engaging in doing it on one side, and whose continuing the derail by engaging them back on the other) know it.

So here's the deal.

Either get this thread back onto the generalized topic regarding Black Men in America whether they are manipulated into substantial group think or not, or it's going away. If it continues to focus on an individual and it's caused to be flushed and/or closed then those, each and every one, causing it will get action taken against them prior to that closure.

Now, finally, due to the contentious nature of the past few pages and how much on the edge this thread is, let me be clear about something that's typically borderline with regards to the rules. Going forward in this thread, while you are absolutely free to attack an individuals arguments, accusations of a person being racist, or focusing posts too much on the person themselves (even in relation to their argument), is going to get you a quick exit out of the thread.
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Thank you for the bold part. If I purely wanted anything less than a wider discussion of the topic, I wouldn't have put the thread where it is.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
I am not a racist, Nonpareil. TPD posted this thread to put a target on my back. To subject me to ridicule and sanction. I can't even remember the thread to go back and pull my comments in context and, frankly, I don't care to. So every once in a while I stop in this one and defend myself from the consequences of a poster whose mission appears to be a little gnat on my ass.

If posters on this board think I'm a racist, so be it. Ya'll want to make me the subject of a bashing thread? Ya'll want to club me over the head for my opinions? Take my comments out of context? Pile on? Okay. Have fun.
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Don't be melodramatic, I have done none of those things, so stop setting yourself up to be the victim. Those comments of yours were all within this thread, and you have not repudiated them. If you now claim that they are not what you believe, then fine, but don't call it "strange" when people use what you wrote to point out the offensiveness in them. I don't think you are a racist, just insensitive. You seem to think just because you don't experience racism yourself or care to notice it, then it must not exist for those who claim to have experienced it, in your own words: "If I've given you the impression that I gloss over obvious race issues as if racism doesn't exist, it's probably because, in my world, it doesn't".
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
I am not a racist, Nonpareil. TPD posted this thread to put a target on my back. To subject me to ridicule and sanction. I can't even remember the thread to go back and pull my comments in context and, frankly, I don't care to. So every once in a while I stop in this one and defend myself from the consequences of a poster whose mission appears to be a little gnat on my ass.

If posters on this board think I'm a racist, so be it. Ya'll want to make me the subject of a bashing thread? Ya'll want to club me over the head for my opinions? Take my comments out of context? Pile on? Okay. Have fun.
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If somebody said "All women are stupid" - you'd be among the people who think it's sexist wouldn't you? Show some ****ing consistency. :)
 
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

nonpareil said:
Don't be melodramatic, I have done none of those things, so stop setting yourself up to be the victim. Those comments of yours were all within this thread, and you have not repudiated them. If you now claim that they are not what you believe, then fine, but don't call it "strange" when people use what you wrote to point out the offensiveness in them. I don't think you are a racist, just insensitive. You seem to think just because you don't experience racism yourself or care to notice it, then it must not exist for those who claim to have experienced it, in your own words: "If I've given you the impression that I gloss over obvious race issues as if racism doesn't exist, it's probably because, in my world, it doesn't".
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Agreed........
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

nonpareil said:
Don't be melodramatic, I have done none of those things, so stop setting yourself up to be the victim. Those comments of yours were all within this thread, and you have not repudiated them. If you now claim that they are not what you believe, then fine, but don't call it "strange" when people use what you wrote to point out the offensiveness in them. I don't think you are a racist, just insensitive. You seem to think just because you don't experience racism yourself or care to notice it, then it must not exist for those who claim to have experienced it, in your own words: "If I've given you the impression that I gloss over obvious race issues as if racism doesn't exist, it's probably because, in my world, it doesn't".
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Hatuey said:
Not sure in what context "all black men are brainwashed" is not racist in. Own up to it, you made a racist statement. Don't play victim and cry for a pity party. If somebody said "All women are stupid" - you'd be among the people who think it's sexist wouldn't you? Show some ****ing consistency. :)
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I'll just heed Zyphlin's warning and not address your posts about me personally. But if you all want to continue, feel free.

Now, finally, due to the contentious nature of the past few pages and how much on the edge this thread is, let me be clear about something that's typically borderline with regards to the rules. Going forward in this thread, while you are absolutely free to attack an individuals arguments, accusations of a person being racist, or focusing posts too much on the person themselves (even in relation to their argument), is going to get you a quick exit out of the thread.
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Hatuey said:
If somebody said "All women are stupid" - you'd be among the people who think it's sexist wouldn't you? Show some ****ing consistency. :)
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Nice edit, Hat. Smart.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

sawyerloggingon said:
When 92% of any group does the exact same thing it is something to wonder about.
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A lare majority of Americans eat red meat once a day... must be brainwashing
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

MaggieD said:
Nice edit, Hat. Smart.
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I read nonpareil's comment. It felt like a repetition of what he'd said. :) Now - do you believe the statement "all women are stupid" is sexist? Using your logic I could claim that it isn't because I've never really experienced sexism.
 
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