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Are all black men brainwashed? (Read Warning: post #540)

Are all black men brainwashed?

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SheWolf said:
My implication is that the GOP have little to no policies enticing minorities or women to vote for them.
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That is correct. Conservatives tend to believe that it doesn't matter what color your skin is or what set of genitalia you boast. Our policies are therefore not designed to demonstrate favoritism or pander towards either.

Most conservatives are even against the legal definition of hate crime
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because that is criminalizing thought.

affirmative action
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because it is racist.

and do little to nothing to improve education standards and equipment in nearly every school district
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this is an absolute fail - conservatives are the ones coming up with educational reform these days.
 
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cpwill said:
That is correct. Conservatives tend to believe that it doesn't matter what color your skin is or what set of genitalia you boast. Our policies are therefore not designed to demonstrate favoritism towards either.



because that is criminalizing thought.



because it is racist.



this is an absolute fail - conservatives are the ones coming up with educational reform these days.
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Your first point made me LOL. The GOP isn't color blind. Rush Limbaugh definitely isn't color blind, and pundits often complain how 90% plus vote for the Democrats all the time. You know how many Conservatives I heard say that the only reason Obama won was the color of his skin? Who were the Conservatives telling McCain to pick a minority and not go with the white boring guy thing? lol

The GOP has taken a lot of money away from schools in need of though No Child Left Behind.

The fact is, minorities have special values and needs. If you want women to vote for you, you actually have to recognize that women have vaginas and women are concerned about birth control, hpv vaccinations, etc. Latin people have a unique culture and history, and they are going to want to hear about immigration policies the rest of don't value as much. Acknowledging people are different isn't racist.
 
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tecoyah said:
Please understand, I was in no way degrading black people...instead, merely pointing out something I found intersting.

This whole racism thing is gettng quite stupid....
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Actually there is a correlation, but it seems to be... Well here:

Aim
The aim of this paper was to investigate associations between testosterone and different levels of intelligence in young prepubertal children of both sexes.

Methods
Two hundred and eighty four prepubertal children of both sexes between 6 and 9 years of age provided saliva samples. Of these, 107 were intellectually gifted (IQ above 130), 100 children of average intelligence—randomly chosen from general population (IQ between 70 and 130), and 77 children mentally challenged (IQ less than 70).

Results
Our results have revealed the differences in salivary testosterone levels in boys grouped according to IQ, intellectually gifted and mentally challenged boys having lower salivary testosterone levels than their peers characterized by average intelligence proposing the common biological characteristic of minority IQ groups on both ends of the Gauss curve. In girls, no differences in salivary testosterone levels were found among IQ groups.

Conclusions
Our findings are the first that present the relationship between testosterone and the broad range of general IQ in childhood. The boys of average intelligence had significantly higher testosterone levels than both mentally challenged and intellectually gifted boys, with the latter two groups showing no significant difference between each other. The functional implications of the brain-cognition interactions remain to be fully explored with regard to the internal milieu influencing neural substrate. - ScienceDirect.com - Neuropsychologia - Intelligence and salivary testosterone levels in prepubertal children

It would seem higher levels make you average while lower levels make you gifted or retarded. So in the end it is probably hit or miss and has little to do with race.
 
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ah. so conservatives are racist because you know that they secretly are, and women have vaginas which require healthcare, while men have penises, which don't. got it.

:roll: "special values and needs". what utter bunk. the standard is equality before the law.
 
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Dion said:
well ... physicians and educated people are more likely to be liberal or progressive. I think the poll was a general question and not just political. Certainly a party that had a strong foundation of supporting civil rights would appeal to those of color yet each person has unique pov.

Black men are no more likely to be "brainwashed" then white men.

Again, imho the most indoctrinated groups are those that get most of their information from corporate infotainment,
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Certainly a party that had a strong foundation of supporting civil rights would appeal to those of color
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Sorry but the Democrats filibustered the civil right act.
 
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Tucker Case said:
I'm actually talking about the victim mentality, which is a separate issue from the sense of entitlement.

Think about things like the so-called "War on Christmas" and the "But black comedians can tell those jokes, why can't I?" type of complaint. They start from a position of perceived victimhood. In truth, white comedians can make racial jokes. Look at Daniel Tosh. It's about delivery, though.

And the "War on Christmas" is really just a difference of opinions. But we get back to the ratings again. White outrage over issues sells the most advertising for news networks. Pundits (from both sides) make money from creating controversy, not reporting it.

I don't blame the media for this, though. Bitching about the media is just the victim mentality at work. I blame the people. We the people who are driving this phenomenon, including myself. People would rather believe that they are victims than have to seriusly look at how they contribute to their own problems. It's perfectly natural, but it's also detrimental.
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Your comment about comedians made me think of something Tom did before I met him. He was at Zanie's, a comedy club, front row. The black comedian said, "Here's what I want all you white folk to do: when I count to three, scream out, "You black bastard!!!" Okay, 1, 2, 3!!!"
At the count of three, there was only one person in the audience (of predominantly white people) who yelled it. That was Tom.

Glad I wasn't with 'im.

I just asked him if he remembered the guys name; he didn't, but said he had his own sitcom for a while on one of the networks.
 
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the_recruit said:
but surely such ingrained mentalities must have negative effects on black and white society?
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You understand that I was simply giving two examples of the mentality in action, right? Those examples are the negative effects.



care to expound?
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victim-mentality = systemic problem in America

specific applications of the victim mentality = symptoms of that systemic problem.
 
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sawyerloggingon said:
Sorry but the Democrats filibustered the civil right act.
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Yeah, but then Johnson (who had himself fillibustered anti-lynching laws in the Senate) pushed it through over some in his party's objections and signed it into law. The reason he gave at the time was "I'll have them n**ggers voting Democrat for 200 years".

Classy guy, was LBJ.
 
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the_recruit said:
I expect the effects to be different because mentality A (i can't tell black jokes because i'm white) is dfferent that mentality B (i can't get a job because i'm black).
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Those examples aren't mentalities in and of themselves.

They are just two possible effects of a single mentality type.
 
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tecoyah said:
Higher levels of testosterone do seem to differentiate black males from others, but this is not brainwashing:

"Blacks have much higher testosterone levels than Whites from age 7-24. After 24, the difference starts shrinking, and by the early 30′s, it is gone. In later years, White men have higher testosterone than Black men. This makes it very difficult if not impossible to explain differing behavioral variables, including higher rates of crime and aggression, in Black males over the age of 33 on the basis of elevated testosterone levels.

Higher testosterone levels are linked to violent behavior. High testosterone results in lower IQ in males but better fighting and mating skills. Interestingly, the black male IQ is 83 and black female IQ is 87."

Black Males and Testosterone: Evolution and Perspectives | Robert Lindsay
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I have been researching testosterone levels for and in men and women for other reasons. There has been very little medical testing of testosterone because there's very little money to be made doing it. It is not a patentable drug so little research has been done on it. (The lotion it's mixed with, or the injected tab, etc. can be patented, but those are not 'drug' specific.) It is also difficult to test a testosterone level especially in women. Things like time of day the blood is drawn, the particular lab that is doing the test, the type of test being done changes the results. Testing in different countries would probably involve different procedures. So I haven't seen anything to support that actual testing was done. In addition in my my and other associates experience we are often exposed to what is called dry lab results supporting some students, engineers or medical researchers work. So what am I supposed to think about Robert Lindsay's work?
In addition, skin color isn't sufficient to define race genetically unless the 'black skin' gene also defines testosterone level.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Reagan? What? You had me on ignore for 4 years? I never noticed... :shrug:


Coherency, try it sometime.
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Imagine if folks spent less time insulting me and hurling attacks, explained the actual cotext the way they see it, perhaps we'd have a discussion instead of this ysual nonsense, by the usual suspects, but hey, where's the fun in that...:prof
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Irony, you has it.
 
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cpwill said:
Yeah, but then Johnson (who had himself fillibustered anti-lynching laws in the Senate) pushed it through over some in his party's objections and signed it into law. The reason he gave at the time was "I'll have them n**ggers voting Democrat for 200 years".

Classy guy, was LBJ.
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OMG. I looked that up...couldn't find a "reliable" source for it. That's awful.
 
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cpwill said:
ah. so conservatives are racist because you know that they secretly are, and women have vaginas which require healthcare, while men have penises, which don't. got it.

:roll: "special values and needs". what utter bunk. the standard is equality before the law.
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Well you know the left group think is. They've been taught that they don't have to work for a living, by Sharpton, Jackson, and liberals in the government. They've been taught this for over 50 years. Now they want their healthcare for nothing.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

cpwill said:
That is correct. Conservatives tend to believe that it doesn't matter what color your skin is or what set of genitalia you boast. Our policies are therefore not designed to demonstrate favoritism or pander towards either.
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Well, what color your skin or what set of genitalia doesn't matter to republicans, as long as the skin is white and you has a dick.
 
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MaggieD said:
OMG. I looked that up...couldn't find a "reliable" source for it. That's awful.
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yeah. LBJ once urinated on a Secret Service agent, and when the guy jumped out of the way, told him as President it was his prerogative.

that a-- was probably one of the least moral Presidents we've ever had.
 
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Redress said:
Well, what color your skin or what set of genitalia doesn't matter to republicans, as long as the skin is white and you has a dick.
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:roll: logic. you don't has it.


if that were the case, we'd have affirmative action for white men. conservatives wouldn't love alan west. they wouldn't rush to defend sarah palin. anne coulter would sell no books. marco rubio wouldn't be bombarded by constant begging to run as VP. so on and so forth ad infinitum...

protestations that "well that's what they secretly think" nonwithstanding.
 
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cpwill said:
:roll: logic. you don't has it.


if that were the case, we'd have affirmative action for white men. conservatives wouldn't love alan west. they wouldn't rush to defend sarah palin. anne coulter would sell no books. marco rubio wouldn't be bombarded by constant begging to run as VP. so on and so forth ad infinitum...

protestations that "well that's what they secretly think" nonwithstanding.
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See, this is why conservatives never understand why they drive away blacks and women. Let me explain: blacks are proportionally far more likely to, for whatever reason, be low income. Republican budget plan calls for changing tax brackets making the top end pay much less, but to offset this wants to cut unspecified tax loopholes. Now we all know that some of those loopholes and deductions will be ones that low income people use too. Therefore the republicans want to cut taxes for the mostly rich white guys, while raising taxes on the poorer people, who are, guess what, much more likely to be black. But it is brainwashing for blacks to vote democrat...

Then you have republic ans passing bills requiring women to get objects shoved up their vagina to exercise their constitutional rights. Man, can't imagine why women would not rush to vote republican...

And that is the crux. Without identifying gender or race, republican policy still is aimed at to benefit those who are, mostly, white, and mostly male.
 
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Hatuey said:
... best non dick related come back I've ever heard.
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I had to get a hoodie reference in now before the short-attention-span having mother ****ers in this country move on to the next issue they are going to care about whole-heartedly until they completely forget about it almost immediately.

Remember that white slut that Limbaugh made fun of? Yeah, nobody else does either.
 
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Tucker Case said:
I had to get a hoodie reference in now before the short-attention-span having mother ****ers in this country move on to the next issue they are going to care about whole-heartedly until they completely forget about it almost immediately.

Remember that white slut that Limbaugh made fun of? Yeah, nobody else does either.
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I wonder why she doesn't vote republican?

See, I brought her in and on topic!
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

cpwill said:
Yeah, but then Johnson (who had himself fillibustered anti-lynching laws in the Senate) pushed it through over some in his party's objections and signed it into law. The reason he gave at the time was "I'll have them n**ggers voting Democrat for 200 years".

Classy guy, was LBJ.
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So far Johnson was right class or not.
 
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Redress said:
See, this is why conservatives never understand why they drive away blacks and women. Let me explain: blacks are proportionally far more likely to, for whatever reason, be low income. Republican budget plan calls for changing tax brackets making the top end pay much less, but to offset this wants to cut unspecified tax loopholes. Now we all know that some of those loopholes and deductions will be ones that low income people use too. Therefore the republicans want to cut taxes for the mostly rich white guys, while raising taxes on the poorer people, who are, guess what, much more likely to be black. But it is brainwashing for blacks to vote democrat...
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hey, lookit that!

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a strawman!

followed by basis supposition and factually incorrect premises!


and yet... that makes it not at all distinct from the rest of the liberal arguments on this thread.....
 
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Since when does someone have to have a "source" to have an opinion??
 
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Redress said:
I wonder why she doesn't vote republican?

See, I brought her in and on topic!
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Actually, I brought her in and it was tangentially on topic because I also demonstrated how I can get away with calling her a slut while Limbaugh couldn't (which relates back to my racial humor post, which goes back to the victim mentality ****, which gets back to the brainwashing business and so on and so forth).
 
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