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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What do you base this on? Are you a Black man? Do you know a lot of Black men who tell you this? Is it something you have studied? If so, show us what you got.
    I know you want truth, Gimmesome, but this board is filled with opinions. I'm just as entitled to mine as the next person. BTW, read post #43 -- if I'm not mistaken, that is a black man talking.

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    This is just as true with whites as it is with blacks, if not moreso.

    The victim mentality has become so prevalent in American culture that most people fail to recognize it, even when they themselves are displaying in it. It's only noticed when others are displaying it on an issue that the person doing the noticing disagrees with.

    Hell, Santorum's entire platform is built upon it.
    I sure do agree with you about Americans, in general, feeling a sense of entitlement. I do think, though, that a sense of entitlement is a little bit different than victimology. Maybe I'm wrong.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I know you want truth, Gimmesome, but this board is filled with opinions. I'm just as entitled to mine as the next person. BTW, read post #43 -- if I'm not mistaken, that is a black man talking.
    Yes, one Black man. Again, if that is what you are basing your opinion upon, well...there you are.

    The thing I find interesting is how you don't seem to have much to base your opinion on, while you seem to be blaming the victim(s).
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This is actually pretty interesting. I was going through the responses and allot of them ring true to at least some degree.

    I would not call it brainwashing as that is not what it is. There is however a strange dichotomy of hopelessness and group think among a majority of blacks. It is the result of years of slavery and Jim Crow, the creation of the welfare state and finally drugs and the drug war. The introduction of crack cocaine was and is probably the single greatest threat not only to, but accelerating the downfall of the black family unit. Now drugs affect every walk of life, but the black community was hit particularly hard. All of these things have contributed to some degree to the downfall of the black family structure and community as a whole.

    With a culture so decimated over such a long period of time, to many gave up and taught this to others. So the cycle is now firmly in place and killing us as a people.

    So now the easy way out is seen to be the right way. Doing well in school makes you a slave to the white man and open to ridicule, while selling drugs is accepted and promoted as a way to succeed. Speaking ghetto slang is not only promoted but accepted by idiots running our schools. Speaking good english makes you an uncle Tom or less black. The "house nigger" mentality still exists to this day, and the darkness/lightness of your skin can still open you up to ridicule among your own.

    So after all this people wonder why someone would think we could possibly be brainwashed? Not really a huge leap.

    So the Democratic party is seen as the savior in the US, because they proclaim to be the party that cares about blacks and the needs of the black community. So in the end it really is not brain washing. It is black people reaching out for something or someone for hope.

    Unfortunately to many do not see our system for what it is. Two party's that are two sides of the same coin out for one thing... Their own power and greed.
    Excellent post. Thank you.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I sure do agree with you about Americans, in general, feeling a sense of entitlement. I do think, though, that a sense of entitlement is a little bit different than victimology. Maybe I'm wrong.
    I'm actually talking about the victim mentality, which is a separate issue from the sense of entitlement.

    Think about things like the so-called "War on Christmas" and the "But black comedians can tell those jokes, why can't I?" type of complaint. They start from a position of perceived victimhood. In truth, white comedians can make racial jokes. Look at Daniel Tosh. It's about delivery, though.

    And the "War on Christmas" is really just a difference of opinions. But we get back to the ratings again. White outrage over issues sells the most advertising for news networks. Pundits (from both sides) make money from creating controversy, not reporting it.

    I don't blame the media for this, though. Bitching about the media is just the victim mentality at work. I blame the people. We the people who are driving this phenomenon, including myself. People would rather believe that they are victims than have to seriusly look at how they contribute to their own problems. It's perfectly natural, but it's also detrimental.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Think about things like the so-called "War on Christmas" and the "But black comedians can tell those jokes, why can't I?" type of complaint. They start from a position of perceived victimhood. In truth, white comedians can make racial jokes. Look at Daniel Tosh. It's about delivery, though.
    When it comes to racial jokes, I don't think it's even about delivery. I tend to think it's more random chance. Who hears it? How offended did that person get? How far did they push it and to which network? Did it grab Jesse Jackson's or Al Sharpton's attention? That kind of thing.

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if someday somebody says, "ZOMG!!! Daniel Tosh is a racists! He must be fired!!!", after he'd been doing the same thing for years.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Brainwashed meaning what exactly? And no, I don't think all people in any group are brainwashed into anything. But then again I also think it's poor form to call out another user by quoting a post they made a mistake in and arguing based on that single word mistake.
    I agree. I don't understand, TPD, why you didn't clarify what Maggie meant in the original thread, and challenge her premise there. This smacks of trying to embarrass a poster by using a poll basically as a personal call-out thread.

    If I understand what Maggie is trying to say, she seems to imply that in our society black males are sometimes raised in an environment where they feel singled out for suspicion, and believe their opportunities are limited by being black, poor, and undereducated. If someone grows up with the expectation that they will not amount to much and will probably end up in jail, their reality probably will meet the expectation.

    Maggie's use of the word "brain-washing" was incorrect, but since I've read so many of her posts, I believe my presumption of her meaning is accurate. Maggie, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't wish to put words in your mouth.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    For anyone that is interested......

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yes, one Black man. Again, if that is what you are basing your opinion upon, well...there you are.
    What do you mean by "well there you are." So one black man can not speak about the real problems in the black community? You have to be black now to see a huge problem exists? You are trying to make her and her comment into something it was not and never meant to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The thing I find interesting is how you don't seem to have much to base your opinion on, while you seem to be blaming the victim(s).
    What? You have got to be kidding? So tell me, what sources are you basing your advanced and secret black man information on?
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    This came from this quote in another thread:



    I've seen this argument repeated by many posters in many other threads for the year I've been here and I want to know if this is a common assessment of black men - that they are brainwashed and consequently, do not have or are incapable of having their own thoughts. So, do you agree? Moreover, if you answer "yes", do you believe that black men are more "brainwashed" than any other race? And if so, why do you think that black men think less for themselves than other races?
    Pointing the poll at MaggieD seems should have been down in the basement. For what its worth, never, not once, has she posted any message that hints of racism, rather she isn't doing contortions to always sound politically correct. Her's is a valid topic she raises. Do most African-Americans belief they are discriminated against? I think the answer is no, but most will try to use that if it to their advantage sometimes. And sometimes white folks fall for it too.

    Many people of all races are conditioned towards prejudices. There are African-American communities where it would be literally dangerous for a white teen or white adult man particularly to walk thru or move into. There are white communities where the sam are would apply towards African-Americans. Since I've lived in both environments/cultures I've seen it from both sides. Most people probably only see one side of it, so see African-Americans as "brainwashed" against whites or whites as racists against African-Americans. But really both are the same.

    "Brainwashing" is the wrong word. It is conditioning (from birth) and particularly if tied to poverty and low education is highly convincing. Then others - white-guilters, "liberals," and others who try to benefit themselves re-enforce this for their own purposes concerning African-Americans. For those folks, the "rage" is artificial and only manipulative. Sadly, they then re-enforce or even create the racial divisions as is happening in Zimmerman-Martin. They WANT race conflict and riots - but for their own benefit. Totally artificial - and seemingly so transparent that most African-Americans aren't falling for it.

    It also is more localized and the specific community based, not generally nation, though the national media wants it to be because they want us all neatly and uniformly put into specific pidgeon holes of group-collective perspectives - all African-Americans are one way, all Republicans another, all Democrats all the same, all white people the same, all Christians the same - and nationwide. Why people allow the rage editorializing commentators to define reality is beyond me, though it seems they increasing make realities that otherwise did not and would not exist.

    Being conditioned from birth is very powerful and unless something causes the person to question it, those will be the truisms of their life.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    This is a silly poll. I don't know how anyone could conclude that every black man is brainwashed.

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