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Are all black men brainwashed? (Read Warning: post #540)

Are all black men brainwashed?

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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Tucker Case said:
They aren't problems in and of themselves,
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but surely such ingrained mentalities must have negative effects on black and white society?

Tucker Case said:
they are merely symptoms of an over-arching systemic problem that really has nothing to do with race.
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care to expound?
 
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Objective-J said:
no not all or even most blacks are brainwashed any more than any other race or gender LMAO

are their black people that IMO are blind to certain things? yep but I could pick any race and gender and probably come up with a blind group in all of them. :shrug:

uncle tom? sell out? Oreo? not used often in real life and not use often by objective rational adults.

Coming from a mixed family myself and living in the both black and white world, family and community I see no evidence of brainwashing with one race or gender over another.
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I identify with that last statement a lot. I have family members and close family friends of multiple races. I pretty much grew up very aware of different cultures, particularly cultures surrounding blacks and whites which I think might have given me my perspective on race that a lot of other people don't have. I just don't see too many notable differences between races in many respects. What differs does so in content rather than form. For example, both races deal with the victim mentality FORM, but the CONTENT of that mentality is different. For whites, it might be more about political correctness and for blacks it might be more about employment. In each case, however, both races are dealing with a victim mentality regardless.

It's just nonsensical to me, given what I've experienced of the world, to single out races for something like "brainwashing" or "victim mentalities" and such. I think that's the type of thing people do when they are, frankly, unaware of cultures and races different from their own. It's like assuming that just because you don't see something, it doesn't exist.
 
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the_recruit said:
what effects do you think these two victim mentalities breed within black society and white society respectively?

Btw, feel free to speak your mind and generalize a bit if you want - i won't latch onto a specific word in your post and use it to start a new thread inviting the rest of the community to join in gang-stomping you for a few ill-chosen words. i'm not such a colossal douche.
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Who are you again?
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I identify with that last statement a lot. I have family members and close family friends of multiple races. I pretty much grew up very aware of different cultures, particularly cultures surrounding blacks and whites which I think might have given me my perspective on race that a lot of other people don't have. I just don't see too many notable differences between races in many respects. What differs does so in content rather than form. For example, both races deal with the victim mentality FORM, but the CONTENT of that mentality is different. For whites, it might be more about political correctness and for blacks it might be more about employment.

It's just nonsensical to me, given what I've experienced of the world, to single out races for something like "brainwashing" or "victim mentalities" and such. I think that's the type of thing people do when they are, frankly, unaware of cultures and races different from their own. It's like assuming that just because you don't see something, it doesn't exist or seen it a couple times makes them think its the norm
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I couldnt possible agree more:thumbs:
I think believing that brainwashing is more prevalent in any one race or gender here in america IS being brainwashed yourself.
 
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Tucker Case said:
Why do you assume that they breed different things within these communities based on the race of the community?
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I expect the effects to be different not because of race.

I expect the effects to be different because mentality A (i can't tell black jokes because i'm white) is dfferent that mentality B (i can't get a job because i'm black).

hell, forget race. how do you think a person's life is going to be affected from believing A versus believing B?
 
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Meathead said:
Brainwashing may too strong a term, but I do think there is an element of that with those who consider themselves victims in perpetuity because others have continually pointed this out.
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You mean like angry white Tea Party types?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

rcart76 said:
I think we are, along with every other race in this country. And the evidence to back it up is the crap these politicians get away with.

1) Democratic politicians convince people that Bush was involve with 911.
2) Republican politicians convince people that Obama hated America (Glen Beck).

That is why politics is good business because people in this country are emotional and not logical thinker.
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Which 'Democratic politicians' tried to convince people that Bush was involved in 9/11? As I recall, that was more a combination of the Far Far Left and the anti-semitic Right.
 
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Everyone has some form of brainwashing going on. Parents brainwash their kids from birth. Social groups promote brainwashing and stereotypes. It doesnt take much to see brainwashing in action...examine political parties or for that matter, simple political ideation and orientation. Are some blacks brainwashed? Of course. Hell we have seen examples of that within the last few weeks with the Zimmerman/Martin case. Some whites? Of course...pick a side on the abortion debate, on the efficacy debates, on social spending. Everything is packaged and promoted for mass appeal. Anyone that doesnt see that and believe it...well...thats cuz YOU are brainwashed...
 
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VanceMack said:
Everyone has some form of brainwashing going on. Parents brainwash their kids from birth. Social groups promote brainwashing and stereotypes. It doesnt take much to see brainwashing in action...examine political parties or for that matter, simple political ideation and orientation. Are some blacks brainwashed? Of course. Hell we have seen examples of that within the last few weeks with the Zimmerman/Martin case. Some whites? Of course...pick a side on the abortion debate, on the efficacy debates, on social spending. Everything is packaged and promoted for mass appeal. Anyone that doesnt see that and believe it...well...thats cuz YOU are brainwashed...
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But don't you think brainwashed is too strong a word for that? And I'm asking this as an honest question. If EVERYONE is brainwashed, then brainwashed isn't a big deal. It seems to me that everyone just learns much of their worldview from the people/things around them, but that's not really brainwashing... Brainwashing implies more force and not everyone has ideas forcefully pushed on them.
 
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Tucker Case said:
I'm actually talking about the victim mentality, which is a separate issue from the sense of entitlement.

Think about things like the so-called "War on Christmas" and the "But black comedians can tell those jokes, why can't I?" type of complaint. They start from a position of perceived victimhood. In truth, white comedians can make racial jokes. Look at Daniel Tosh. It's about delivery, though.

And the "War on Christmas" is really just a difference of opinions. But we get back to the ratings again. White outrage over issues sells the most advertising for news networks. Pundits (from both sides) make money from creating controversy, not reporting it.

I don't blame the media for this, though. Bitching about the media is just the victim mentality at work. I blame the people. We the people who are driving this phenomenon, including myself. People would rather believe that they are victims than have to seriusly look at how they contribute to their own problems. It's perfectly natural, but it's also detrimental.
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Abso-freaking-lutely.

All ideologies have a fair share of whiners. Honestly, I can't tell who whines more, liberals or conservatives.
 
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megaprogman said:
Abso-freaking-lutely.

All ideologies have a fair share of whiners. Honestly, I can't tell who whines more, liberals or conservatives.
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Definitely not Progressive's though right? :2razz:
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
"typical white person"

Thise types make horrible racial epithats. And cross streets when they see a black man.....


The race baiting was obama's but i dont expect an honest assement from you on this.

His grandmother sounds like a bigoted prejudiced racist asshole....


Somethin I disagree with is his view linking her to "typical white people" and found rather offensive.


But I forgave him, i'm voting for him. :prof


I've backed this claim up more than once but you and the others would never listen nor admit....

Yet, in all these years, none of you explained the statement, but gey why bother when you can hurl insults at me instead! ;)


:shrug:
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You have in fact not bcked up the claim. You have entirely avoided backing up the claim. You have refused to quote him, except for one tiny bit out of context. You made a claim then expected others to prove you wrong. We did.
 
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megaprogman said:
Abso-freaking-lutely.

All ideologies have a fair share of whiners. Honestly, I can't tell who whines more, liberals or conservatives.
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I vote liberals, because anything conservatives can do, we can do better.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
That is your assumption, I asked her what her sources are, nothing has come in response.
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Considering she thanked it we can assume it is most likely correct.

Gimmesometruth said:
Again, I asked for her sources, what SHE based HER opinion on.
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I understand that. It is just that anyone can watch the news and get that kind of information.

Gimmesometruth said:
And the other is HER......there you are.
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touche!

Gimmesometruth said:
I never denied that, again, the question was what SHE was basing her opinion on that backs her claim of "brainwashing". Still, no answer.
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Maybe I just see it as self evident.

Gimmesometruth said:
It wasn't out of context, at all....it comes from the body of her comments related to the whole "brainwashing" comments such as:
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OK. Thanks for the reply!
 
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Redress said:
I vote liberals, because anything conservatives can do, we can do better.
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That must be why the Tea Party kicked your asses in 2010 after all that wonderful work you did in congress.
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
That must be why the Tea Party kicked your asses in 2010 after all that wonderful work you did in congress.
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Too bad the Tea party kinda fell apart afterwords and all those people they elected promptly ignored them.
 
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Neal N. Bloeme said:
That must be why the Tea Party kicked your asses in 2010 after all that wonderful work you did in congress.
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Redress's joke (up here)












your head (down here)
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
You obviously, like digsbe, didn't read this post where I did clarify. But it doesn't matter because no matter which post I posted she would have played the victim card, so...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/123014-all-black-men-brainwashed.html#post1060365379

I also created the thread because I wanted to create it to answer your other question.
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I did not play any victim card, PlayDrive.



To those of you who understood what I was trying to say and didn't jump down my throat, please accept my sincere thanks.

Joko, I think, used the word "conditioning -- much better than "brainwashing." That would have been a much better word for me to have used. I shall stand perfectly still for five minutes so those who are so inclined can get off a good shot.

To those very few who think my opinion is racist, I could not possibly care any less. I know who I am.

To those who think this thread was a call-out meant to invite a Maggie Bash? I agree. And thank you for recognizing that.

And a special thanks to BlackDog for straightenin' us all out. Best post I've read on this forum in a loooong time. ;)
 
Redress said:
You have in fact not bcked up the claim. You have entirely avoided backing up the claim. You have refused to quote him, except for one tiny bit out of context. You made a claim then expected others to prove you wrong. We did.
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I find your peurile claims of victory, lacking merit or accuracy :shrug;
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
I find your peurile claims of victory, lacking merit or accuracy :shrug;
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Then maybe, just maybe, you should actually back up your claim. Here is an odd thought, quote him, with a link and context. Until you have done that, those who have provided the full quote have pretty thoroughly refuted you.
 
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Higher levels of testosterone do seem to differentiate black males from others, but this is not brainwashing:

"Blacks have much higher testosterone levels than Whites from age 7-24. After 24, the difference starts shrinking, and by the early 30′s, it is gone. In later years, White men have higher testosterone than Black men. This makes it very difficult if not impossible to explain differing behavioral variables, including higher rates of crime and aggression, in Black males over the age of 33 on the basis of elevated testosterone levels.

Higher testosterone levels are linked to violent behavior. High testosterone results in lower IQ in males but better fighting and mating skills. Interestingly, the black male IQ is 83 and black female IQ is 87."

Black Males and Testosterone: Evolution and Perspectives | Robert Lindsay
 
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