View Poll Results: Are all black men brainwashed?

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    No, you mean the one's who vote Democrat...
    No, I wrote what I meant...thanks for caring enough to verify what I meant...

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, what party is responsible for enslaving blacks within our welfare system? Which party made sure they got a hand out instead of a hand up? And which party has tried the hardest to reform that system?
    I don't think that that argument is going to work. Just attacking the Dems won't prove reason for them to move to the other side. A lot of people also feel that equating black people with welfare is also racist, courtsey of Reagan's Welfare Queen campaign, and currently the largest percentage of people of welfare is white and Latino now.

    I think the other party should think of a better way to give a "hand up" with policies than make an anti-Democrat Party argument central to welfare.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    not at all - that people become addicted to easy, free government handouts is precisely a portion of the conservative argument here.
    lol... I don't think people are addicted to it. Addiction is an entirely different type of emotion and psychical existence. People need welfare, but not because they are mentally addicted to it, but because they know it's easier to stay on welfare than try to make it at a min wage job at McDonald's the rest of their life. People can live better on welfare than they can working and dealing with stress, medical bills, rent, etc.

    The welfare system needs to be reformed. It should encourage people to work, and should probably be paid out based on your willingness to work and inability to live above the poverty line, not just the amount of babies you have.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I realize that not all addictions are a choice, but there is no circumstance that I can imagine where someone goes "I have to go get that welfare payment or else I will go through horrible levels of shame/dispair/depression, whatever"

    Yeah, your example works in cases of things like sexual fetishes, ptsd, or whatever
    We don't exactly have a bunch of Welfare Addicts hanging around outside the welfare office and begging office workers, "I'll suck your d*ck if you can get one more welfare check a month... just one more check, that's all I need."

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I've already told you that I was going to go back edit it to "many black men." But you don't want to hear that. You want to call me out in a post.

    My vote is "No," by the way.
    Alright, MaggieD, I know you have some conservative views some of which go alittle outside the social norms, but I attribute that moreso to lack of exposure to many facets of life outside of the Chicagoland area than I do racial tendencies. Therefore, before responding I would like to know what brought on the "(many) black men are brainwashed" statement in the first place? Was this a general statement or were you addressing a specific issue? What exactly as we suppose to be brainwashed about? Point me to the thread/article/statement/reference source in question so that Black men can digest the contents and judge for ourselves the merits of your pychological assessment of us.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Politically the US black population is essentially monolithic, far more so than any other demographic. I expect that's where the idea of brainwashing comes from.
    Monolithic? In other words, what you're really trying to say is we all think and act alike. As such, we must vote alike, right? Is that your assessment of African American behavior and/or pyschology? What brings you to such a conclusion? Moreover, what makes you an expert of African American behavior to project such a narrow viewpoint on people of this ethic group? Are you Black? Have you taken a course in African American studies? What qualifies your statement?

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Alright, MaggieD, I know you have some conservative views some of which go alittle outside the social norms, but I attribute that moreso to lack of exposure to many facets of life outside of the Chicagoland area than I do racial tendencies. Therefore, before responding I would like to know what brought on the "(many) black men are brainwashed" statement in the first place? Was this a general statement or were you addressing a specific issue? What exactly as we suppose to be brainwashed about? Point me to the thread/article/statement/reference source in question so that Black men can digest the contents and judge for ourselves the merits of your pychological assessment of us.
    Just click on the arrow next to her name in her post in the OP to see the context of the quote.

    It's also worth nothing that she didn't tell me that she was going to back and edit it. She said that she "almost" went back and didn't. So correct quote is, in fact, "all black men".

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Did you read Blackdog's posts at #43?

    All/many/most makes a huge difference.

    I have not suggested that black men are more susceptible to brainwashing. I'm saying the messages they often get are messages of victimology.
    As a Black man who grew up in Gary, IN - a neighboring city south-east of Chicago - I have NEVER saw myself as a victim of society nor do I believe that just because I am a Black man that I must fit the mold of Black social stereo-types.

    I DON'T wear the so-called "trendy" clothes that many of my peers wore, i.e., Nikes shoes, Harringbon gold necklaces, FUBU attire.

    I DON'T speak "Ebonics"; I speak very much the way I type which is to say I try very hard to use proper English grammer.

    I DON'T believe I need to "keep up with the Jones" in order to get ahead.

    I DON'T eat Chitterlings, hogmales, fatback, ox tails or many of the other more common ethic foods my peers are known consume mostly because I just didn't grow up on it. My mother didn't prepare such meals often because my father who was Black BTW wouldn't eat it. It might even surprise most posters to learn that this Black man to this day does not use hot sauce on my foods be it chicken, eggs, collard greens or anything else. It's just not something I do, but I recognize it is a condiment closely associated with the African American dining ritual. Does that make me not Black enough? Or was I merely absent from Black Brainwashing 101?

    If this poll is an attempt to plug Black people into some socio-political scheme, I'd say you've missed the mark somewhat. While it might be true that a large segment of the African American population tend to vote Democrat, IMHO the reasons behind that are vast. But it starts with understanding how the Republican Party let African Americans down after Reconstruction.

    Under Pres. Lincoln, the Republican Party sought to unite the nation, but their mistake was pursuing a path of "separate, but equal". Once that didn't take hold, the "separate" part became the benchmark of the Party of which Conservative Democrats took that ball and ran with it! (KKK anyone?)

    Look, I'm willing to concede that a great many Black men and women are lazy, have been held sway by drugs and alcohol, and do subsist off of entitlement programs some from craddle to grave, but many White people would be surprised to learn that this IS also a problem among White Americans, too. So, if the argument is that Blacks tend to vote Democrat because we're promised "handouts" by liberal politicians, I'd say you really don't understand Black folks very well.

    It's not a matter of promises; it's a matter of trust. And for the most part, the Republican Party hasn't done much to gain the trust of the African American people. But we can take that matter up in another thread along with how Reconstruction let the Black man down after seeming so promising initially. But this brainwashing thing among Blacks...c'mon...really?

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    wow... 9 'yes' or 'others'.

    this country needs razed in nuclear fire, or possibly a new hatian revolution. :whew:

    or maybe those 9 voters at least...

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Monolithic? In other words, what you're really trying to say is we all think and act alike. As such, we must vote alike, right? Is that your assessment of African American behavior and/or pyschology? What brings you to such a conclusion? Moreover, what makes you an expert of African American behavior to project such a narrow viewpoint on people of this ethic group? Are you Black? Have you taken a course in African American studies? What qualifies your statement?
    That's exactly what he's saying and he's right. Black folks like myself, who don't tow the line know exactly what treatment we can expect from our, "brothers". Don't we, OV? I know for a fact that you hate blacks that don't walk the line. We're called race traitors, when we aren't, "down", the bull**** that the Libbos tell us we should be down with.

    Constantly, it's assumed that I'm white, because I'm a Conservative.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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