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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I think we are, along with every other race in this country. And the evidence to back it up is the crap these politicians get away with.

    1) Democratic politicians convince people that Bush was involve with 911.
    2) Republican politicians convince people that Obama hated America (Glen Beck).

    That is why politics is good business because people in this country are emotional and not logical thinker.
    Glenn beck is not a Republican politician.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I wasn't even thinking of the racism aspect, to be honest. I think a lot of people assume that the only way someone could disagree with them about a certain issue would be if they are brainwashed.
    I agree with this. And it is seen often where someone will say that the other only believes such a thing because they were brainwashed. Although the person arguing can never be brainwashed into holding their opinion. The opinion that disagreeing opinions stem from brainwashing may be brainwashing in and of itself.

    That's why everyone should stick with having a dirty mind, because if it's washed there may be something wrong
    Ironically, the entire idea that many black people are "brainwashed" into supporting programs that "keep them down" could be described as a form of brainwashing in and of itself since very few people who say such things actually came to that conclusion on their own from their own research and analysis.
    Agreed.
    In the vast majority of instances, they are merely regurgitating something they heard someone else say which they automatically believed without ever putting in the effort to research the veracity of the claim.

    Now while that could be described as brainwashing, I would just call it "normal" since most people seem to do this type of thing regardless of what side of the fence they are on.
    I also agree with this. My view of brainwashing is similar to what the Nazis tried to do Jewish image in Germany. They would push that Jews were evil and tried to warp ethics into justifying this like the Holocaust and other atrocities. When political pundits say things I don't really view it as brainwashing, because many of those pundits push what they think is true and really believe what they say. I think the act of brainwashing in the common sense of the term has to do largely with the intent of the brainwasher.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    This is actually pretty interesting. I was going through the responses and allot of them ring true to at least some degree.

    I would not call it brainwashing as that is not what it is. There is however a strange dichotomy of hopelessness and group think among a majority of blacks. It is the result of years of slavery and Jim Crow, the creation of the welfare state and finally drugs and the drug war. The introduction of crack cocaine was and is probably the single greatest threat not only to, but accelerating the downfall of the black family unit. Now drugs affect every walk of life, but the black community was hit particularly hard. All of these things have contributed to some degree to the downfall of the black family structure and community as a whole.

    With a culture so decimated over such a long period of time, to many gave up and taught this to others. So the cycle is now firmly in place and killing us as a people.

    So now the easy way out is seen to be the right way. Doing well in school makes you a slave to the white man and open to ridicule, while selling drugs is accepted and promoted as a way to succeed. Speaking ghetto slang is not only promoted but accepted by idiots running our schools. Speaking good english makes you an uncle Tom or less black. The "house nigger" mentality still exists to this day, and the darkness/lightness of your skin can still open you up to ridicule among your own.

    So after all this people wonder why someone would think we could possibly be brainwashed? Not really a huge leap.

    So the Democratic party is seen as the savior in the US, because they proclaim to be the party that cares about blacks and the needs of the black community. So in the end it really is not brain washing. It is black people reaching out for something or someone for hope.

    Unfortunately to many do not see our system for what it is. Two party's that are two sides of the same coin out for one thing... Their own power and greed.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I doubt any kind of "brainwashing" exists. Sounds like a convenient term to dismiss people or ideas you don't agree with.
    Do you have a take on Patty Hearst?

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    How do you know what the black communities reaction to black on black violence is?

    It certainly doesn't make the news around here too often. Have you ever been to any of the rallies out in Englewood?
    I was never commenting on the black community's reaction to it. I was opining that Jackson/Sharpton/The Black Congressional Caucus should give more attention the fact that over 300 blacks were murdered by blacks since Martin was killed. THAT is an even bigger tragedy. Kids shot on their way to school. Standing on street corners. Playing out in front of their houses. Sitting on their porches. And that goes on every day. Where is the outrage, where are the cameras, where are the Washington politicians, various state governors, movie stars, yada yada yada, over THAT stark reality?
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This is actually pretty interesting. I was going through the responses and allot of them ring true to at least some degree.

    I would not call it brainwashing as that is not what it is. There is however a strange dichotomy of hopelessness and group think among a majority of blacks. It is the result of years of slavery and Jim Crow, the creation of the welfare state and finally drugs and the drug war. The introduction of crack cocaine was and is probably the single greatest threat not only to, but accelerating the downfall of the black family unit. Now drugs affect every walk of life, but the black community was hit particularly hard. All of these things have contributed to some degree to the downfall of the black family structure and community as a whole.

    With a culture so decimated over such a long period of time, to many gave up and taught this to others. So the cycle is now firmly in place and killing us as a people.

    So now the easy way out is seen to be the right way. Doing well in school makes you a slave to the white man and open to ridicule, while selling drugs is accepted and promoted as a way to succeed. Speaking ghetto slang is not only promoted but accepted by idiots running our schools. Speaking good english makes you an uncle Tom or less black. The "house nigger" mentality still exists to this day, and the darkness/lightness of your skin can still open you up to ridicule among your own.

    So after all this people wonder why someone would think we could possibly be brainwashed? Not really a huge leap.

    So the Democratic party is seen as the savior in the US, because they proclaim to be the party that cares about blacks and the needs of the black community. So in the end it really is not brain washing. It is black people reaching out for something or someone for hope.

    Unfortunately to many do not see our system for what it is. Two party's that are two sides of the same coin out for one thing... Their own power and greed.
    Very well said.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I was never commenting on the black community's reaction to it. I was opining that Jackson/Sharpton/The Black Congressional Caucus should give more attention the fact that over 300 blacks were murdered by blacks since Martin was killed. THAT is an even bigger tragedy. Kids shot on their way to school. Standing on street corners. Playing out in front of their houses. Sitting on their porches. And that goes on every day. Where is the outrage, where are the cameras, where are the Washington politicians, various state governors, movie stars, yada yada yada, over THAT stark reality?
    The black community doesn't control where the cameras go. Protesting the violence in the black community doesn't get nearly as much airtime. It's not controversial enough for the modern media. It doesn't garner ratings, and it doesn't get white people bickering.

    But ironically, just last week on Fox Chicago this story ran:



    Did you miss that in all your outrage over your perception of the lack of outrage? Granted, that one made the news because Dwayne Wade's nephew was shot. Those kinds of rallies happen all the time without getting any airtime.

    Jackson and Sharpton are douchebag camera hounds who only go where there are cameras (and they don't decide where those cameras will be). they are a piss poor metric to judge the black communities outrage over the killings in their neighborhoods.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The black community doesn't control where the cameras go. Protesting the violence in the black community doesn't get nearly as much airtime. It's not controversial enough for the modern media. It doesn't garner ratings, and it doesn't get white people bickering.

    But ironically, just last week on Fox Chicago this story ran:



    Did you miss that in all your outrage over your perception of the lack of outrage? Granted, that one made th enews because Dwayne Wade's nephew was shot. Those kinds of rallies happen all the time.
    No, I didn't miss it. Your "Granted...." statement is telling, of course. On what page of the newspaper is it being covered today?
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No, I didn't miss it. Your "Granted...." statement is telling, of course. On what page of the newspaper is it being covered today?
    It's probably already out of the newspaper. It doesn't get ratings or sell papers.

    There are still rallies, though. There is still outrage. What there isn't is white interest in those stories. White people aren't outraged. They are outraged over the Martin/Zimmerman thing. Either they are outraged that Zimmerman is still free, or they are outraged that people are making it about race.

    White outrage is what sells advertising slots.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It's probably already out of the newspaper. It doesn't get ratings or sell papers.

    There are still rallies, though. There is still outrage. What there isn't is white interest in those stories.
    Well, I'm going to have to think about that for a while. You may be on to something.
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