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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You can keep all the students who want to learn, who crave an education in the seats next to them so they can all fail while "we try to fix this thing." That's sarcasm, by the way.
    I don't think anybody is arguing for a system where "they all fail".

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It depends on which kids your talking about. Are you talking about kids who aren't interested in anything on the planet or kids who have interests that aren't tapped into at school?
    kids who simply don't want to be in school
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Hatred? I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion.
    Lots of folks seem to have lots of anger and negativity that people vote the way they do. That comes across loud and clear.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    kids who simply don't want to be in school
    well, maybe we should get off of this stupid "everyone should go to college" kick, and offer a way for those kids to off-track into actual training programs where they learn actual skill sets.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Not at all. The basis of my belief lies outside of the educational system itself. So changing the educational system one way or another, will not do anything if the person they are trying to reach doesn't care.

    Your solution is for kids that want to learn but have not found a system that works well for them.

    These are two different groups of people. However, they can appear the same to the outside observer.
    It is not the system or the students.it's the parents.they have the main fault.to materialistic and no sense of responsability.
    Listen to your conscience....and let it sink in.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fubar View Post
    It is not the system or the students.it's the parents.they have the main fault.to materialistic and no sense of responsability.
    Yes, I already went over the effect of cultural influence.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    kids who simply don't want to be in school
    Yes, but why don't they want to be in school?

    The problem is that some people think that when a kid "doesn't want to be in school", then that's the end of the conversation. In other words, if they don't want to be in school, then there isn't anything that can be done to help them succeed. The problem with that line of thinking is that it doesn't consider the questions, "can a school practically do anything to make a student want to be there?" and "do certain schools do more to interest students more than others?" The answer to both of those questions is "yes".

    So unless you can show that all "uninterested" students in poorly performing schools cannot be "made interested" in a practical, cost effective manner in the similar ways to how highly performing schools tend to interest their students, then whether or not students are "interested" is just another obstacle that CERTAIN (usually poor and minority) schools have failed to address.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, we have our fellow members of our community to thank for that reaction.
    It really doesn't matter whose fault it is, and by framing it as an issue of blame and by faulting black people for racism against black people, you are essentially saying that it's not an issue for anyone else to worry about, which is simply not true. If a black police officer is more likely to pull over black drivers for the same infractions (or for "suspicion"), for example, it's still racism...the race of the cop is irrelevant. The NYT had an interesting op-ed piece this week, which addressed this very issue, in the context of black-on-black violence. I think it's equally applicable to other situations where people blame the "black community" for racism against blacks:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/op...=1&ref=opinion

    Here’s how it works. When confronted with an instance of racially charged violence against a black person, a commentator draws attention to the fact that there is much more black-on-black violence than white-on-black violence. To play the violence card — as many criminal-justice advocates have done since the Rodney King police brutality case of the early 1990s — is to suggest that black people should worry more about the harm they do to themselves and less about how victimized they are by others.
    It’s true that black-on-black violence is an exceptionally grave problem. But this does not explain the allure of the violence card, which perpetuates the reassuring notion that violence against black people is not society’s concern but rather a problem for black people to fix on their own.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Good point. For example, there are people out there who believe that nominal rate changes are the same thing as tax hikes or cuts - thereby demonstrating that they do not understand the meaning of the word "nominal" v, say, "effective". Clearly such people can be safely ignored, and, probably, frankly, shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well, maybe we should get off of this stupid "everyone should go to college" kick, and offer a way for those kids to off-track into actual training programs where they learn actual skill sets.
    I would be satisfied if everyone just finished HS. At least then you have enough education to pursue learning on your own accord, library's are wonderful things.

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