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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    not at all - that people become addicted to easy, free government handouts is precisely a portion of the conservative argument here.
    So you're comparing welfare handouts to chemical addictions that have acute neurological effects on the brain?
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    So you're comparing welfare handouts to chemical addictions that have acute neurological effects on the brain?
    Either or its so psychologically damaging that the person has to have it or they will have horrible negative psychological consequences

    Maybe this is why so much money is laced with cocaine ...

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, I'M not setting up a false choice. I am repeating the two positions that have been presented by certain conservatives and showing how they cannot possibly be compatible. The first position presented by those conservatives: Everything is a matter of choice and personal responsibility. The second: Blacks are enslaved and brainwashed by Democrats.

    Those things cannot coexist which is my point.
    that is incorrect, because you are setting up mutually exclusive absolutist versions of the items you are discussing.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    not at all - that people become addicted to easy, free government handouts is precisely a portion of the conservative argument here.
    Addiction is a strong, inaccurate and hyperbolic word. There are people who abuse welfare systems just like there are people who abuse corporate subsidies. Addiction is not the word for that.

    Also, nothing is "free".

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    I guess people don't realize there are more white people on welfare than black people...

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    I was pondering Maggie's eye opening post as I made my artery clogging sausage and cheese omelet and alot of thoughts went through my mind. The cynical and reactive side of me says the Reps need to do something to get blacks on their side, a reparations bill should do it. The problem is that is not a real fix and I don't want to see any Republican act like Johnson. The real fix here is education. Blacks have a 70% dropout rate and this needs to be changed if we want the black vote to change. There is a thirst in the black community for education and this is obvious when you see lines around the block in DC to get kids into private schools that Dem's fought tooth and nail to do away with.

    I listen to talk radio both right and left and I have noticed that black conservatives speak good English and seem educated, they talk about the jobs they have or business they own while their counterparts that call Ed and Thom speak Ebonicscs and whine about government programs being insufficient to live on. If people of any color are educated and become part of the working class and or entrepreneursrs they become more conservative. Higher education is run by the left and kids tend to be leftist but as they mature and succeed in life they tend to swing to the right. Many years ago a black man saved my life but unfortunately was killed before I had a chance to thank him. I was fortunate enough later on to be in a financial position to help his son go to college which was his dad's dream. The kid came out a lib but now is a successful business man and is very conservative so there ya go.

    Republicans need to fight a battle to keep black kids in school and get them educated.It will take a generation or two for this to effect the way blacks vote but it is a real fix and not a Johnson approach not to mention it is just the right thing to do and good for the country economically speaking.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that is incorrect, because you are setting up mutually exclusive absolutist versions of the items you are discussing.
    No, I'm repeating what people have said, but you're determined to pretend that that never happened, so there's not much else to say to you.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    I guess people don't realize there are more white people on welfare than black people...
    They vote more republican so therefore they are not enslaved ...

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    I guess people don't realize there are more white people on welfare than black people...
    while you are certainly correct with the fact that, in raw numbers, more welfare recipients are white, it is also true that as a percentage of a racial population, blacks are more likely to be welfare recipients (ditto, subject to arrest)
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, I'm repeating what people have said, but you're determined to pretend that that never happened, so there's not much else to say to you.
    people are trying to describe something to you, but you are mistaking the imagery for the thing itself.

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