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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you object to the word 'hatred' as over the top but then speak to us of ENSLAVING blacks
    absurd. but indicative of the reason why black voters run from your party and those who populate it
    What does having the opinion that welfare programs that in the past have offered a handout instead of a hand up is just another form of marginalizing and figuratively enslaving black people have to do with hating them?
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, what party is responsible for enslaving blacks within our welfare system? Which party made sure they got a hand out instead of a hand up? And which party has tried the hardest to reform that system?
    "Enslaving"? Really? Hyperbolic much?

    Also, I'm trying to figure out what conservatives really believe. One day, I hear that people on welfare choose to be in that position (aka "personal responsibility). The next day I hear that Democrats have enslaved blacks. So which is it? It can't be both. Either people choose to get to their position in life or the Democrats are enslaving people.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    "Enslaving"? Really? Hyperbolic much?

    Also, I'm trying to figure out what conservatives really believe. One day, I hear that people on welfare choose to be in that position (aka "personal responsibility). The next day I hear that Democrats have enslaved blacks. So which is it? It can't be both. Either people choose to get to their position in life or the Democrats are enslaving people.
    That is kind or narrow minded. The truth is it is probably a little of both without being exactly either.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What does having the opinion that welfare programs that in the past have offered a handout instead of a hand up is just another form of marginalizing and figuratively enslaving black people have to do with hating them?
    because, as you will note in the "what is the new definition of racism" thread: "racism" now = "conservativism" for the purposes of discussion .

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    "Enslaving"? Really? Hyperbolic much?

    Also, I'm trying to figure out what conservatives really believe. One day, I hear that people on welfare choose to be in that position (aka "personal responsibility). The next day I hear that Democrats have enslaved blacks. So which is it? It can't be both. Either people choose to get to their position in life or the Democrats are enslaving people.
    to an extent you could argue that slaves "chose" to be there too, as they obviously decided that slavery was better than being killed for trying to run away.

    Democrats enable dependency on the welfare state, effectively making it harder for people to escape poverty, thus trapping them in a destructive, multi-generational cycle.

    That may be a better way of depicting what we are trying to get at.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What does having the opinion that welfare programs that in the past have offered a handout instead of a hand up is just another form of marginalizing and figuratively enslaving black people have to do with hating them?
    Enslavement is "against someone's will" if they are making choices, then its not against their will. Its that simple why this type of language is hyperbolic.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What does having the opinion that welfare programs that in the past have offered a handout instead of a hand up is just another form of marginalizing and figuratively enslaving black people have to do with hating them?
    I don't consider telling black people that they are lazy, brainwashed and uncaring for their communities a "hand up", but that's just me.

    In any case, blacks aren't enslaved by the welfare system. Nobody is. There are people, black and white, who do choose to take advantage of the welfare system, but that you continue to choose to relegate this choice to the black population is another example of how your posts depict characteristics you perceive as negative only in blacks and not in whites.

    It's also interesting that your posts depict, at every turn, blacks incapable of making choices. They state that blacks are brainwashed and that blacks are enslaved by welfare system rather than choosing to be on it for one reason or another. It's odd that your posts rarely, if ever, represent of black Americans in terms of free will, unless of course they're talking about how they don't care about the violence in their communities.
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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    meh, "choice" and "will" are not such bright lines. Talk to any recovering-addict group about the slavery of the substance in question, and you will see heads nodding.

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    meh, "choice" and "will" are not such bright lines. Talk to any recovering-addict group about the slavery of the substance in question, and you will see heads nodding.


    completely different circumstance

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    Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is kind or narrow minded. The truth is it is probably a little of both without being exactly either.
    I don't think so. The actual reality may be a mix of choice and influence, but the way certain people talk treats reality as black and white. If you believe that people are completely responsible for their position in life, then you can't also believe that they are being enslaved and brainwashed by another group.

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